People who still believe in freedom of speech can sign a petition against the government's proposed Communications Legislation Amendment (Combating Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2023 at:-

https://www.binthebill.au/

. Misinformation can be any statement by ordinary Australians.

. Anything the government authorises can't be misinformation, but if you criticise the government, that can be misinformation.

. Digital companies will censor statements by Australians so that they will not be fined by the government.

. Government officials can force Australians to appear before them to answer questions about misinformation and issue fines of $8,000 per day if they don't attend.

. If a university academic says something, it can't be misinformation, but if you disagree with the academic, that can be disinformation.

. The government can exclude its favourite websites from the law so that anything that appears on those sites can't be misinformation. But the same material on other sites will be disinformation.

I wish there was some https://www.binallbills.au

Yuyutsu

You'll have to explain that to me.

I can see some on OLO who plaster the site with misinformation through their vitriol in favour of a 'NO' vote for the referendum, being called to account at some stage. Who knows, an analysis of the opening post on this thread could expose it as chock full of misinformation as well.

Dear Ttbn,

«You'll have to explain that to me.»

The website you referred us is named:

[https://www.] binthebill [.au/]

where "binthebill" stands for bin-the-bill, that particularly bad bill of restricting communications between people whose views the government does not like.

Of course I signed that petition, that was a no-brainer, but there are hundreds and thousands of other laws, past, present and future bills/laws that constantly harass us ordinary people, that sit like millstones on our neck - just imagine how we could be able to breath without them, which is why I suggested to similarly:

Bin-All-Bills

or in URL format, https://www.binallbills.au

We should have known, ttbn is a mouth piece for the LIBERAL PARTY, singing from the Noalition song book. Yep, "Binthebill....Authorised by David Coleman MP, Liberal Party of Australia. You didn't mention you are asking for signatures on behalf of the LIBERAL PARTY.

Coleman said; "Anything the Albanese Labor Government authorises can't be misinformation - but if you criticise the Government that can be misinformation."

The Parrot said; "Anything the government authorises can't be misinformation, but if you criticise the government, that can be misinformation."

Coleman said; "Digital companies will censor statements by Australians so that they don't get big fines from the Government."

The Parrot said; "Digital companies will censor statements by Australians so that they will not be fined by the government."

ttbn keeps parroting Coleman, but he doesn't let on that's what he's doing. He wants us to believe its all his own handy work!

ttbn is Coleman paying you?

I should have realised just how disinterested OLO posters are in the real threats we are facing. I can only hope that that real people out there have more intelligence.

In the meantime, I have written to all SA Senators and the local member, with my opinions. You clowns just stay anonymous, gutless and pointless, and suck up what's coming. You deserve it.

ttbn

You need to be careful or the Labor Minister for Truth will have you locked up and re educated until you love Labor and Big Brother.

I had already registered with the site.

This legislation is truly horrific but not at all unexpected from this government. OTOH, I have some doubts as to whether thing would look any different if the other side were in power.

And it is all about power. Increasingly governments, medical authorities and other elite institutions are seeing their unfettered authority challenged and they don't like it. If the government and its hangers-on say the GBR is in danger and needs gigantic levels of funding thrown at it, the last thing they want is knowledgeable refutation of that. In the past, the preferred solution to dissenting views was to argue it out. But now the authorities just want the dissenters to be forcibly silenced.

Remember that during the great WuFlu scare, governments were actively and constantly advising that the vaccine would prevent people from getting the dreaded virus. They were actively and constantly lying and some dissenting voices were able to make that point. But if this legislation were in place, those voices would have been silenced. And they would still be silenced even as we learn that the vaccine not only doesn't do what was claimed, but that the dangers are significantly greater than admitted. All would be treated as misinformation and suppressed.

Its all very Orwellian, even worse because they claim, and probably half-believe, that it is being done for our own good. It's not. It's being done in the name of advancing lies. After all, if the so-called misinformation were indeed wrong, they could and should be able to demonstrate that. They couldn't demonstrate it with the vaccines or the GBR and so just want the other voices suppressed.

What dills like Paul with his 'ALP uber alles' attitude fail to realise is that these measures don't just work one one. Eventually other parties will be in power who will turn the legislation against those who currently cheer for it. T'was always thus.

The MSM, that spread all the government lies about Covid and vaccines, will still be able to spread real misinformation and disinformation on behalf of the same lying politicians and scientists. Only the government would be able to judge what is true and what is not. Labor or Liberal: it makes no difference. Neither is frightened of the electorate anymore because Australians are such weak, cowardly people.

A gentleman by the name of Philip Mobbs has apparently launched on Facebook and a webpage something called 'Constitutional Equality'. I don't do Facebook, and I'm chockers with websites, so I'm relying on an article by David Barton in Quadrant Online.

Not unexpectedly, a critter called John Paul Janke popped up on the ABC's 'Insiders' with a yarn that Mr. Mobbs was using Artificial Intelligence with "black (is there another kind) Indigenous characters to try to look like it's an indigenous person supporting the No campaign".

The Janke person is apparently unaware that there are many indigenous people, including Senator Jacinta Price and the high profile Warren Mundine doing just that.

ABC activist, David Speers willingly took the bait, squealing, "Crikey!". Then an accepting "OK" as Janke talked more bollocks.

And guess what? Albanese "chipped in" somewhere along the line and declared 'Constitutional Equality' content to be MISINFORMATION.

Does anyone really want Australian control-obsessed politicians deciding what we can say? Yes. They do!

Since all this crap courtesy of the ABC, Facebook book has been practising for when it has to censor on behalf of the government, and cut
Mr. Mobbs spending on 'Constitutional Equality' by 87%.

That'll disabuse him of any silly thoughts that he can exercise freedom of speech in the People's Republic of Australia!

Facebook censorship has also seen a 91% drop in engagement with 'Constitutional Equality'.

Who needs this Bill? Freedom of speech is already rooted in the PRA. Too much kowtowing with the PRC, perhaps?

In what must be a shock for the Labor/Liberal establishment, our new Human Rights Commissioner seems to have her head screwed on the right way - unlike previous Commissioners.

HR Commissioner, Lorraine Finlay, has "grave concerns" about the Bill:

. The broad terms of disinformation and misinformation and harm are too vague. There should be clear definitions - but there are none.

. The gobbledygook about vague misinformation or disinformation being reasonably likely to cause or contribute to serious harm” is extremely broad; it only has to be ‘reasonably likely to do so’.”

. What is "excluded content", to be decided by politicians or bureaucrats to exempt material being excluded from being misinformation or disinformation.

Like the abominable Voice, here's another piece of bull-at-a-gate rubbish piece of drafting by people not up to the job.

Not only are we facing totalitarianism, we are now copping the educational dumbing-down that has been in operation for some time.

Like the Voice, this Bill can't be repaired. It needs chucking out, never to appear again.

The Chinese Communists have long been enhancing their control over people by controlling what they can read, hear and learn.

The ones in Canberra are trying to do the same thing in Australia.

The Parrot thinks just by saying so it true.

"The Chinese Communists have long been enhancing their control over people by controlling what they can read, hear and learn (typical of totalitarian governments, nothing new there). The ones (Chinese Communist) in Canberra are trying to do the same thing in Australia."

Maybe he is referring to the moderate Albanese government as being "communists", well, you would have to believe in the Tooth Fairy to believe that one. Then again he does have other forum "talking heads" who would agree with him.

Censorship is the hallmark of tyranny. Who determines what is misinformation? The government cannot be trusted not to use this for propaganda.

Albo may not be a communist now, but this is his first step in that direction.

SM

Albanese is a Marxist. The old warhorse, Bronwyn Bishop, has always referred to him as Albo the Trot; so perhaps we should call him a Trotskyite. Whatever: he is a bad man who openly said that he wanted to 'change Australia', which he is doing with mass immigration (even Dutton is calling for a pause) and changing the electorate. The Voice is also part of his divide and rule march towards totalitarianism.

Long time union man and Laborite, Joe de Bruyan, has come out against the Albanese Censorship Bill, saying that under the Bill "citizens are to be muzzled” and that freedom of speech would be restricted.

“Government should trust the common sense of the people” and it should “scrap the Bill”, he says.

He warns that under the Bill “citizens are to be muzzled” and that freedom of speech would be restricted.


The idea that the Government would determine what can and cannot be published online and by broadcasters is completely abhorrent in a democracy.

Only 300 of the 23,000 submissions on this outrage have been published by Albanese. Little transparency from this Marxist (like the Voice).

Citizens will be muzzled only if they obey that law.

Many thanks ttbn for bringing this to our attention
- Signed

Australia's eSafety commission fines Elon Musk's X $610,500 for failing to meet anti-child-abuse standards
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-16/social-media-x-fined-over-gaps-in-child-abuse-prevention/102980590

These people are a bunch of manipulative liars.

>>"This was about the worst kind of harm, child sexual exploitation as well as extortion, and we need to make sure that companies have trust and safety teams, they're using people processes and technologies to tackle this kind of content," she told ABC News Channel.<<

That is not what it was about at all.
Scroll down further (linked in the same article: "please explain' notice")

Australia issues Elon Musk's Twitter with a 'please explain' notice over surge in online hate
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-22/cph-e-safety-commissioner-compels-twitter-to-produce-documents/102505546
"Ms Inman Grant revealed she was particularly concerned about anti-Semitic content, and harmful posts directed at Indigenous Australians and members of the LGBTIQ+ community."

Every single tweet has an option to report the tweets content.
This wasn't about kids, in her own words it was about online hate.
'Protecting children' is just a narrative no-one can disagree with.

Back to the first article

>>In response to Google's statement, Ms Inman Grant said Google needed to put its words to into action.
"If you can't answer basic questions about where the technology that you've developed is not being used on major platforms like Gmail and chat and messaging, then you're not eating your own dog food," she said.<<

That isn't even about online content, that's about having oversight in place to spy on users private content.

Do Australians citizens support social media companies spying on their users private content, such as gmail, and txt messages?

Hi AC

One poster on this site has a very unhealthy preoccupation with paedophilia and paedophiles, he has made hundreds of references to them at every opportunity, but seems to have carte blanche to do so. Maybe he has an account with 'X' as well. Who can tell.

Kudos ttbn and mhaze

The idiot who has a very unhealthy preoccupation with paedophilia is a member of the Green Party and can't escape it.