Yuyutsu

I don’t hate Israel. I think you misunderstand my interest in the new push for the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan 2.0, as an alternative to the two state solution as acceptable, I don’t know that it is in reality, on the grounds that I know very little of the bones of the new proposal: But it certainly would need to be an improvement on the original Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan 1948 model which was a. Disaster of slaughter between Arabs and Jews. No side is pure in that conflict.
It seems to me, this is the axis of your gripe.

But the question is posed quite simply, how can Israel be accused of illegally settling in its own territory? Viz West Bank.

The green line was always an arbitrary line of truce drawn on a map to facilitate a truce, and has no legal impediment to the advance of Israeli settlements.

This question always falls down on a leftist and a right view of Israeli affairs.
I understand your view is one focused on humanity and its tendency towards evil, and that is high minded, but unrealistic.

Y,

Israel's poisonous 1967 war? Rubbish!

The wars between Israel and its Arab neighbours in 1948, 1967 and 1973 were all started by the Arab countries. Israel simply finished them.

shadowminister,

You RWNJs really do go all out trying to rewrite history. Virtually all the wars have come from blatant acts of aggression from Israel.

67 was a prime example.

"On 5 June 1967, as the UNEF was in the process of leaving the zone, Israel launched a series of pre-emptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields and other facilities, launching its war effort."

Why was the UNEF leaving the Sinai and Gaza?

Answer: Egypt expelled them preparatory to war. They then occupied the UNEF's positions overlooking the straits of Tiran. Using those troops Egypt then closed the Straits to Israeli shipping, an act of war. Meanwhile the Syrian army began deploying in Jordan across the boarder from Israel - I think it was sightseeing deployment </sarc>.

That Israel struck first was merely down to their better preparation. But the war was caused by Arab aggression.

BTW, I wonder why SR didn't provide a link for his quote? Could it be that doing so would have provided a better understanding of the casus belli for the war?

Here's what SR didn't want to show..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

So 1967 caused by Arab aggression. Now do Yom Kippur.

Dear mhaze,

Lol.

And what does the link show?

"In May 1967, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits of Tiran would again be closed to Israeli vessels. He subsequently mobilized the Egyptian military into defensive lines along the border with Israel and ordered the immediate withdrawal of all UNEF personnel."

Note the: "mobilized the Egyptian military into defensive lines along the border with Israel".

What do you think defensive lines are for? Aggression or defence?

The canal was handed back to Egypt in 1956. Egypt had sovereign rights over it. Israel along with both France and Britain INVADED EGYPT.

"13 June 1956: Suez Canal Zone was restored to Egyptian sovereignty, following British withdrawal of about 90,000 troops and years of negotiations."

Israel invaded in October of that year because Egypt exercised its sovereign maritime rights over its waters in the Strait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis

It always annoys me, the treachery of the US in the Arab/Israeli conflicts is virtually never raised.
We in Australia should take note of this unreliable alliance, and again it should be highlighted since Canberras official line since the election of Labor has changed again towards Israeli settlements, referring to them as “ Occupied Palestinian Territory”.

This without doubt, is a push less than subtle, by the US Democrats, angling towards branding settlements as illegal, which of course they are not.

The Democrats rainbow ideology as usual, follows the path of antisemitism.