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Revenge of Bruce Lehrmann

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As the details of the extent of the political interference in his prosecution become available, it is clear that this trial was a kangaroo court based on zero evidence and against the recommendations of the police.

The Chief Prosecutor Shane Drumgold who ran this charade is now looking at unemployment and losing his legal license. The ACT government is also facing a multi $m lawsuit that they will most likely lose.

"Bruce Lehrmann will lodge a multimillion-dollar claim for compensation against the ACT Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions as the territory government examines what are expected to be serious adverse findings against chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold.

Mr Lehrmann’s explosive claim of malfeasance by the ODPP emerged on the same day the ACT government received the Sofronoff report into misconduct in the prosecution case against the former Liberal staffer.

ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr has drawn fire over his decision to delay the public release of the report, with former defence minister Linda Reynolds condemning the “inexplicable suppression” of Mr Sofronoff’s findings.

On Friday Mr Barr said the government would consider the report “through a proper cabinet process” that would take three to four weeks, with the Legislative Assembly updated at the end of August. It is believed at least two of the potential findings against Mr Drumgold, who has been on leave since May and is not due to return until August 30, would be grounds for his dismissal as Director of Public Prosecutions and for removal from the roll of barristers."
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 11:47:59 AM
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Everyone involved in this case, except Bruce Lehrmann, should be out of work or in jail.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 11:59:01 AM
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Give me a break.

So nothing about the fact that Higgins' private txts were leaked by the defence and which are still being drip fed to the media.

Nothing about the fact that Lehrmann was "the subject of multiple sexual assault and harassment allegations".

And nothing about a current case being prosecuted in Queensland?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 12:14:46 PM
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I recall watching video footage of the evening that
Ms Higgins claimed she was raped. And thinking -
it didn't quite support her claims. Still that footage
has apparently disappeared, and in the meantime, Ms
Higgins has been paid an undisclosed amount (up to
$3 million) in compensation.

An independent board of inquiry was established to
investigate the ACT criminal justice system's
handling of the case after numerous complaints of
irregularities.

The inquiry continues.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 12:50:53 PM
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Now we need to know just who approved that compensation payment, & get rid of all involved in it. It obviously was hush money to keep her quiet about those encouraging her in this political witch hunt.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 3:02:25 PM
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"Canberra Liberals Acting Leader Jeremy Hanson said, arguing that Mr Barr should release the report immediately and in full.

“The public rightly expects this inquiry to be conducted without prejudice and released without interference.”

Mr Hanson said the unredacted release of the report’s unredacted findings needed to happen to “restore faith” in the ACT justice system and its impartiality and openness."

'restore faith' in the judicial system? Sorry, that horse has already bolted.

When a man is accused of anything sexual, irrespective of evidence or lack thereof, he is on a hiding to nothing. Justice runs a distant second. A women however, provided she picks the right victim, can end up with a few million $ for her trouble. The system is screwed (pun) and only lost careers and prosecutions will fix it ie it won't be fixed.

Which is why the ACT government won't release the report.

The fix is in.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 3:20:46 PM
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Why shouldn't Liberals be raping Liberals, after all they raped the country for almost ten years. What's a million between mates, the ScumO' mob wasted billions!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 5:53:09 AM
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Dear mhaze,

So no concern over the hours of police interviews or the contents of Higgins' phone which were never tended to the court but have made their way into a concerted media campaign against Ms Higgins. Nothing about the magistrate finding this so egregious that she wants the rules about the pretrial exchange of evidence changed.

Nothing about the wiping of CCTV evidence at parliament house. Nothing about the deep clean of the office before any evidence could be obtained.

Further why are you saying the payout involved a few million dollars when the amount has never been disclosed.

Just victim shaming instead.

Good on ya.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:06:20 AM
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"Further why are you saying the payout involved a few million dollars when the amount has never been disclosed."

Which is why I didn't mention an exact figure.

"Just victim shaming instead."

That's completely untrue. I didn't say a word against the victim here - Lehrmann.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:13:40 AM
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SR,

The point is that there is zero evidence that Brittany H was actually a victim.

That Higgins refused to go to the police or even report to Reynolds until it looked as though she might be fired meant that all evidence was lost. That the room was given a routine cleaning was entirely her fault, as this would have not happened if she had spoken up.

That there was nowhere near enough evidence to establish even that sex occurred at all was known before the kangaroo court started. That this farce occurred at all was purely for political reasons for which Katy G and the DA should face the music.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 3:00:06 PM
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More ammunition for BL:

"ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold knowingly lied to the Supreme Court, engaged in serious malpractice and grossly unethical conduct, “preyed on a junior lawyer’s inexperience”, ­betrayed that junior lawyer who trusted him, and treated criminal litigation as “a poker game in which a prosecutor can hide the cards,” the Sofronoff Inquiry has found.

In findings that are certain to end Mr Drumgold’s career as ACT Director of Public Prosecutions and may lead to criminal prosecution against him for perverting the course of justice, inquiry head Walter Sofronoff KC ruled that every one of the allegations made by Mr Drumgold that sparked the inquiry was baseless.

In the report, obtained by The Australian, Mr Sofronoff found that Mr Drumgold had lost objectivity during the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins and “did not act with fairness and detachment as was required by his role”."
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 3 August 2023 7:19:09 AM
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There are indications from other forums that this will be an interesting case to follow.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/17/queensland-man-high-profile-rape-accused-seeks-information-from-alleged-victims-phone-qld-toowoomba-magistrates-court
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 3 August 2023 9:38:21 AM
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SM,

Are Lehrmann and Higgins still members of the LIBERAL PARTY? LIBERALS raping LIBERALS in parliament house. Did you catch ScumO' Morrison's pathetic speech the other day. What a self serving grub! Agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 3 August 2023 1:11:29 PM
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Village idiot

Isn't Jonathan Doig who raped children a member of the Greens? as well as Karel Solomon.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 3 August 2023 3:20:52 PM
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shadowminister,

You rolling out your predilections and projections is really getting tiring. Give it away for the sake of a bit of decency.

Dear Paul1405,

Here is someone else smelling the money.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/03/linda-reynolds-sues-brittany-higgins-for-defamation-over-social-media-posts
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 3 August 2023 3:36:31 PM
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SR,

Now you just sound moronic. You are happy for your bum chum to spew vile rubbish, but when I reply you get all stuffy and puerile.

As for Reynolds suing Higgins, this defamatory cow couldn't just take her ill-gotten money and run but had to lie about others. She deserves what she gets.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 3 August 2023 3:52:28 PM
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Did Ms Higgins not only get compensation but a
job with the UN talking about the discrimination
of women?

Seriously?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 August 2023 4:27:16 PM
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"The ACT government is under pressure to conduct an inquiry into previous criminal cases prosecuted by Director of Public ­Prosecutions Shane Drumgold, following damning findings by the Sofronoff Inquiry that he knowingly lied to the Supreme Court and engaged in serious malpractice and grossly unethical conduct.

Several senior barristers and retired judges said it was incumbent upon the government to scrutinise Mr Drumgold’s past prosecutions in light of the ­findings by inquiry chair Walter Sofronoff KC that the DPP had lost objectivity during the ­prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins and “did not act with fairness and detachment as was ­required by his role”.

Former NSW Supreme Court judge Anthony Whealy KC said a review of past cases involving Mr Drumgold was necessary and that the case was a stark reminder that prosecutors had to be balanced and impartial."
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 3:21:47 AM
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Foxy,

It would appear that it was all based on a lie that Labor was happy to perpetuate.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 3:33:16 AM
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Hi Steele,

Its terrible how these LIBERALS want to stick their snouts in the trough, all this LIBERAL PARTY infighting about raping each other is disgusting, the latest is Linda (Lying Cow) Reynolds . Its costing the poor Aussie taxpayer millions of dollars. SM don't care, doesn't pay Australian taxes, says he lives in Aotearoa, who knows where he's hiding out these days.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 4 August 2023 5:18:47 AM
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Village idiot,

Once again your post is defamatory as there is no evidence of rape except there are two GREENS convicted of raping CHILDREN, also racially abusing people and assaulting them.

As for wasting taxpayers' money Labor and the gangreens are the world champions starting with the about $2m cash handout to the "lying cow" based on zero evidence or Labor's $1Trillion of debt.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 6:09:28 AM
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SM,

These Greens have been very busy boys, and lets hope they rot in jail for their crimes. This rape business is a saga, an unwarranted distraction, an unnecessary imposition on the Australian taxpayer. In typical LIBERAL PARTY fashion a politician like Reynolds is only interest in herself, and not working for the good of the Australian people, Morrison is the same. Given their shenanigans the Noalition deserves to spend the next 10 years in opposition.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 4 August 2023 6:32:17 AM
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Paul,

How many more of the Greens just haven't been caught yet?
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 9:36:35 AM
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shadowminister,

Leaving aside your predilections the Sofronoff Inquiry found that there certainly was enough evidence for the police to charge Lehrmann and for the DDP to proceed with a prosecution.

This totally files in the face of what you asserted in your opening post: "it is clear that this trial was a kangaroo court based on zero evidence and against the recommendations of the police."

Are you going to retract that statement or are you going to cherry pick what parts of the inquiry supports your argument and disregard the rest?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 4 August 2023 12:31:40 PM
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SR,

Leaving aside your peccadillos, the enquiry also stated that the DPP did need any confidence in winning the case to prosecute and essentially that the DPP was legally entitled to prosecute on the flimsiest evidence. That the DPP not only proceeded against the advice of the police that the case could not be won and also lied to the supreme court to prejudice the case against BL has set the ACT up for $m in compensation.

The DPP is likely to be disbarred and faces jail time, BH is facing a defamation suit as are various publications and BL and Reynolds are likely to be the only ones financially better off.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 2:19:17 PM
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SM,

As a self claimed "man of letters", is this legal opinion as good as the ones you gave here on the 'Beat Up' Bolt case, where you calmed an arrest was imminent, that's so many years ago now. Then there was your prognostications with the 'Cry baby' Porter matter, you calmed Porter would be a future PM, and had nothing to worry about, in your dreams. Porter was in for $10+ million in compensation, a grovelling apology from the ABC, and 100 ABC staff sacked to pay for it all. How do you get so much wrong?

You should be acting for Lehrmann, I'm sure a legal talent like you will get him off with 20 years non parole! ha ha.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 4 August 2023 2:39:20 PM
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Village idiot,

As you are a consistent LIAR and a FRAUD, please stop lying about what I said.

You love Jonathan Doig and admire his attention to children.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 4 August 2023 4:50:33 PM
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SM,

Getting a little bit annoyed are we, not like you. You do give a lot of legal opinion here. I find this business between LIBERAL PARTY, and I assume by now ex Liberal Party members, somewhat amusing as they try to eat each other alive. I say, good luck to them.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 5 August 2023 5:52:41 AM
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Paul,

Unlike some greens, they aren't raping children.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 5 August 2023 5:37:54 PM
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According to another source:

'Walter Sofronoff has gone into hiding after illegally leaking the ACT Inquiry Report to Bruce Lehrmann’s favourite propagandist at News Corp’s The Australian Janet Albrechtsen and the ABC even before he handed the Report to the ACT government.

Walter Sofronoff owns a plane that is parked in a hangar at Toowoomba Airport which is Bruce Lehrmann’s hometown, he was personally phoning journalists and bagging whistleblower Shane Drumgold during the course of the ACT Inquiry and now he has gone into hiding and those are the 3 key issues we will look at in this article.

If you are new to this story in would be worth reading my previous article “Bruce Lehrmann outs himself as a serial rapist by failing to sue media over other alleged rape victims” as it has some background information.

I emailed Walter Sofronoff the below questions on Sunday 6/8/23....'

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2023/08/07/corrupt-judge-walter-sofronoff-who-faces-up-to-6-months-jail-and-owns-a-plane-at-toowoomba-airport-has-gone-into-hiding/
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 7 August 2023 5:32:09 PM
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Village idiot.

Every thread you start with your lies and defamation.

FFS grow up or you will be back in jail.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 6:50:03 AM
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In the absence of evidence, DNA, or medical tests,
Mr Lehrmann could not be found guilty. The law can't
convict a man on something she said he did.

This case was not about political movements, parties,
workplace culture or Mr Lehrmann's past behaviour, or
even about the experiences of other women in
parliament.

This case was about what really happened on a couch in
a room on Saturday 24th March 2019.

Mr Lehrmann has dropped his defamation suit against
NewsCorp. They paid a large portionof his legal expenses.
Ms Higgins has been financially compensated.

The case should now be closed. Certainly there are lessons
to be learned from all this. And hopefully for both parties
they have been.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 10:24:10 AM
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Foxy,

This entire episode was a political witch hunt and Labor manipulated and lied to frame an innocent man to get political advantage. Bruce Lehrmann has had his reputation unfairly ruined and deserves compensation

Walter Sofronoff has been caught out and will never practise again as a barrister and may be struck off. Lisa Wilkinson and 10 News at the forefront of the charge are being sued and I guess that Katy Gallager will also have to face the Music and Higgins won't get away scot-free either.

It is now time to punish the actual guilty parties.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 10 August 2023 3:19:27 AM
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This case was not about political movements, parties,
Foxy,
You can't be accused of ignorance anymore after all the attention to this case & most other topics here so, it has to be more than ignorance, an unkind but very much deserved descriptive word starting with 's' is more appropriate !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 11 August 2023 7:59:52 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

A report on the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann over the
alleged rape of Brittany Higgins has accused the ACT
top prosecutor of "knowingly lying" to the ACT chief
justice. The inquiry into Mr Lehrmann's prosecution
apparently was damning.

I gather the report has not yet been released.

Not sure what happens next.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 August 2023 9:48:14 AM
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Foxy,

The report has come out and it was so scathing that the ex-DPP is unlikely to be able to practise law ever again and the ACT is likely to face a massive lawsuit from BL and the police that were forced off the force.

Higgins is facing a defamation lawsuit from Reynolds for lying and may have to give up the $3m that was donated to her by Labor. The guilty will be punished.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 11 August 2023 4:22:39 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Thanks for that.

Glad to hear the results.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 August 2023 4:47:49 PM
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The report is 839 pages long. There is nothing earth-shattering about it; the recommendations are anodyne and of little interest to the general public.

I was most interested in the part about Heidi Yates, trotting alongside Higgins like a little dog, but she remains unscathed.

Not in the report, some of the police officers involved have resigned, or gone on stress leave, probably never to return to policing, which should please loony Leftists.

Sofronoff seems to have wasted his own time and everybody else's.

The story goes that the Labor/Green ACT government was enraged that Sofronoff released the report - and they want a report on him - because they didn't get a chance to redact some of it. I read in detail,and speed read some sections of the report, and I didn't see anything that the ACT government would need or want to redact. They could hardly cover up the shameful behaviour of the DPP, who has received his comeuppance.

The whole affair was very grubby, and the ACT government is looking even grubbier.

One good think on the matter of their forced take over of the Calvary Hospital is that the Senate enquiry into that outrage has been extended due to to petitions and general objections from the public.

The appeal against the hospital outrage was dismissed, and the dismissal has been accepted by the Catholics. But, they seem convinced that such a thing will not happen again after the extended Senate enquiry has grilled the ACT tinpot government, and that the mud will stick to them - and to the horrible Prime Minister who stood by them, when he could have prevented the anti-private property, anti-Christian assault, the ACT being a territory and not a state,

Shame on all the foul people involved.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 11 August 2023 5:54:18 PM
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"Former Liberal Party adviser Bruce Lehrmann says he is seeking millions of dollars in damages after his high-profile rape charge was dropped.

Mr Lehrmann was accused of raping his then-colleague Brittany Higgins in Parliament House in 2019. However, his trial was aborted last year after a juror engaged in misconduct while the jury was deliberating. A retrial was then scrapped due to concerns about Ms Higgins's mental health.

Mr Lehrmann maintains he is innocent. There have been no findings against him. Last week, the findings of an ACT board of inquiry into the handling of Mr Lehrmann's case were made public.

The inquiry — akin to a royal commission and led by former Queensland judge Walter Sofronoff — accused Mr Drumgold of engaging in "serious misconduct" during the investigation and trial. However, it also found the decision by police and Mr Drumgold to prosecute Mr Lehrmann was correct — a decision that does not imply that Mr Lehrmann is guilty. Mr Drumgold has since announced his resignation, though he disputed many of the inquiry's adverse findings against him.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 14 August 2023 3:51:38 AM
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It looks like the ACT is happy to prosecute alleged rapists with zero evidence.

This sounds familiar!

"Prosecutors in the ACT went ahead with the rape trial of a university student despite being repeatedly warned it would only end up humiliating and further damaging the young woman who had made the allegation because there was clear evidence she had lied.

Defence barrister Steven Whybrow SC wrote to the prosecutor before the man’s trial in April pointing out that the complainant’s story was so wildly contradictory and at odds with the evidence that “even the gentlest cross-examination of this complainant is going to be devastating and humiliating for her”.

“I am genuinely concerned about the effect running this case might have on this young woman,” he said. “Such a prosecution will not advance the position of persons genuinely subjected to sexual assault.”

In the event, the prosecution rejected Mr Whybrow’s plea for the prosecution against 21-year-old Alex Matters to be discontinued and the trial went ahead.

The jury found Mr Matters, an Australian National University student and former Labor staffer, not guilty of the charges.

He and the complainant had been in a “friends with benefits” relationship but on one occasion, the woman said, he would not stop sex when she asked him to."
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 14 August 2023 5:31:28 AM
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This whole rape saga has been too much, the Liberal Party handled it extremely badly, with the priority being a cover up to protect political reputations, and the parties good name, which it had lost after the Porter allegations, and other well publicised scandals. This has cost the taxpayer millions, which if handled appropriately in the first place, that would never have eventuated.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 14 August 2023 5:48:40 AM
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Village idiot,

What you mean is the two fake rape cases? Zero evidence has been provided for either.

On the other hand, the two cases of Child rapists in the Greens have led to 2 convictions of senior greens that the Greens are desperately trying to cover up.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 14 August 2023 9:18:43 AM
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Oh, and Higgins has never returned Senator Reynolds Cara Z jacket that she 'borrowed' and was seen on CCTV wearing as she left the building.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 14 August 2023 10:02:07 AM
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shadowminister,

"Zero evidence has been provided for either."

Rubbish.

There was the sworn statement of the victim. That is not zero evidence and the fact that you would even say that shows how little regard you have for the voice of victims.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 14 August 2023 12:27:16 PM
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Set your calendars.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/09/high-profile-man-accused-of-toowoomba-to-find-out-if-he-can-access-alleged-victims-old-phone-data
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 14 August 2023 12:40:25 PM
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Hi Steele,

Its now clear that putting the victim on trial in rape cases will be the go from here on in. Few rapes are reported now, with this latest incursion there will be even fewer.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 5:49:00 AM
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SR,

The statement from a proven liar is technically evidence if you want to nitpick. Perhaps I should have said zero verifiable evidence.

Given that there is more probable that the "rape" was fabricated to prevent BH from being fired, the real victim is more likely to be BL.

Apparently, your belief is politically motivated.

Let's see how BH fares after being sued by Reynolds.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:42:52 PM
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Its obvious the LIBERAL PARTY is racked with infighting, where members are suing each other, trying to milk the taxpayer for all they can. The lesson to be learned is that mob can't be trusted, and deserve to spend the next 10 years in the political wilderness.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:04:41 PM
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"Former Defence Minister Linda Reynolds has recanted her Supreme Court evidence that she was never told by a chief of staff that Brittany Higgins had disclosed “I remember him on top of me”."

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/former-defence-minister-linda-reynolds-backflips-on-brittany-higgins-evidence/news-story/72c0a93be9acde540cf267ab453ecb45
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:19:42 PM
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Yep, a 'Lying Cow' for sure.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:38:35 PM
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Fascinating watching a 'blue on blue' rumble, with media and authorities desperate in trying to nudge away from the LNP and even blame ALP; same ecosystem and dynamics with the UK Tories & US GOP.

The hard right has lost the plot, but as late John McCain suggested, self destruction by the Senate GOP Koch & Trump linked Freedom Caucus (ditto Tory, Koch & Legatum ERG in UK Commons); they don't care, they simply don't care (about norms, standards, ethics & morals)

And Conservatives are now upset that middle aged and younger do not become conservative, why? Because the effect of watching this man child, 'conservative Christian' behaviour.... via Murdoch et al media....
Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:49:07 PM
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“I remember him on top of me”."
SteeleRedux,
How would anyone know if she wasn't dreaming or otherwise imagining it or perhaps simply fantasising ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 4:34:25 PM
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"fantasising" a big word for you Indy. How about we cut 20 bucks a fortnight from the Aged Welfare payment so we can pay scum bucket Liberal politicians millions in compo for being grubs? Fantasise about that one.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 4:54:29 PM
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The LIBERAL PARTY jackals, they are like a pack of dogs, fighting over the spoils. some say its $3 million, maybe so. Higgins got her share from the taxpayer, now Reynolds and Lehrmann want a slice as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 17 August 2023 6:44:31 AM
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Village idiot,

More massive hypocrisy from you again.

Firstly as you are only semi-literate (not much education in juvie)
Secondly, every Green Polly is a useless leach on the taxpayer's purse and per capita has the most significant number of convicted criminals paedophiles etc.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 17 August 2023 6:46:22 AM
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Fantasise about that one
Paul1405,
Or, perhaps you could fantasise what it would be like to be a person of integrity, free of unwarranted hatred, free to prove you actual worth rather than pay a Union to guarantee you a salary unwarranted in comparison to your merit or fantasise about being retired & not have the Govt fund your Super ?
Fantasising about how not to be such a useless being would also go a long way !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 17 August 2023 7:35:27 AM
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Dear Indyvidual,

"How would anyone know if she wasn't dreaming or otherwise imagining it or perhaps simply fantasising ?"

No Linda Reynolds clearly told a porky and got pinged for it. Her staffer was able to show up the lie to the satisfaction of the court and now Reynolds has recanted.

Whether she can claim she was 'dreaming', imagining it' or 'fantasising' instead of outright lying is up to Reynolds herself. The rest of us will form our own views.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 17 August 2023 9:40:20 AM
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SteeleReflux,

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. People's memories are not perfect and mistakes are made over a year and that Reynolds recanted does not mean that she lied on the stand.

Higgins however, was caught making several deliberate lies over time and on the stand and tried to jail an innocent man to further her career. The problem with the huge payout she got was that there was justification for it other than a political payout.

Reynolds and Lehrmann can prove that they were lied about and defamed and are due compensation.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 20 August 2023 6:51:43 AM
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shadowminister,

The trial was aborted due to the malfesence of a juror and the victim understandably decided she was not up to going through a second trial particularly because her counselling notes were given to the defence and her private texts have been continuously leaked to hostile media.

That does not render a verdict of innocent rather one of not proven.

That he seemingly has other cases to answer is notable.

He was also caught lying to police on numerous occasions and his account was deemded unreliable.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 20 August 2023 2:10:35 PM
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"The trial was aborted due to the malfesence of a juror and the victim understandably decided she was not up to going through a second trial."

What a load of bs.
I don't see how sharing a paper showing numerous women to be liars should render a mistrial.
No more than claiming 'all men are rapists'.

Higgins herself said she was going to create a huge sexual scandal months before it even happened.

Don't talk about justice.

My friends 15 year old daughter was gang-raped by 9 Africans.
Do you know how many times that poor girl has had to front court?

With 9 perpetrators, all wanting adjournments, claiming poor upbringings etc..

With mum having to take dozens of days off work to attend court
- Impacting her finances and preventing her from taking better care of her daughter.

You think she is offered counciling, you think she got a 5 million dollar payout for unproven allegations?

Well in this case with 9 perpetrators there's no saying it didn't happen, they've all dobbed each other in.

But still they are looking for slaps on the wrist and the government will give it to them.

- Meanwhile the girl in question has attempted suicide twice so far after the event.

Justice?

Don't you pro-immigration people with your 'vulnerable minorities' bs talk to me about justice.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 20 August 2023 2:32:00 PM
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If I came out claiming Bruce Lehrmann raped me in a public toilet many of you would instantly believe it anyway.
Why - because all men are rapists apparently.
FYI I don't even know Bruce Lehrmann.

If they can openly claim 'all men are rapists', then I will take an equally unreasonable position, that being 'all women are liars'.

Look at the crap these NAZI's pedal...

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/the-not-all-men-excuse-is-absurd-20180618-p4zm94.html

Listen up men: Saying '#NotAllMen' is incredibly insensitive to survivors
http://dailytargum.com/article/2021/04/listen-up-men-saying-notallmen-is-incredibly-insensitive-to-survivors-youre

Somehow their bs gets full coverage and funding?

You can't even speak the truth anymore and frame things in a reasonable way defending men as basic human beings without being attacked by social justice warriors for some construed offense.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT SANE.

I'm not choosing which half of the shite sandwich I want to eat anymore.
'None of the above.'

I'm not making deals with the deranged and mentally ill.
I refuse to swallow anymore of this imposed woke mental illness bs.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 20 August 2023 2:49:31 PM
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SteeleReflux,

The trial was cancelled and BL is innocent until proven guilty, and he has yet to be proven guilty. All the evidence presented at the trial is in the public domain including the proof that Higgins lied.

You and I know no one else will come forward with anecdotal "evidence" and face defamation charges. One evidence-free trial has collapsed and no one else is stupid enough.

Higgins has been shown to be less than truthful and the ACT DPP to be corrupt.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 21 August 2023 3:06:50 AM
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"Higgins has been shown to be less than truthful" Well YES, after all she was/is a member of the LYING LIBERAL PARTY. The poor girl was probably indoctrinated into the ways of ScumO', Fridbrain, Dud and Lying Cow, children are impressionable.

Join the crusade; stop more Liberals from getting their snouts into the taxpayer trough!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 21 August 2023 5:21:41 AM
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Village idiot,

Like Jonathan Doig and Karim the Greens' paedophiles, the Greens' snouts are firmly in the trough and don't want to share with anyone, especially the taxpayers.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 21 August 2023 12:20:53 PM
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shadowminister,

Again with the fascination with "paedophiles". It really is a terrible look.

A quick Google shows there have been politicians on all sides who have been caught out:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/james-hayward-cout/102752520

So you constantly hammering on about the odd Greens person getting caught up in this seems far more like thinking about it is a constant for you. It really does smack of projection.

Time to drop it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:11:53 AM
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SR,

Looks like I hit a sore point for you. A bit too close to home for you?

Each time the village idiot starts raving he needs to be reminded of the horrific crimes committed by those in his party. Yours too I guess.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 2:13:37 AM
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Hi SR,

Be careful, he likes to have a little whinge to the moderator from time to time. I no longer respond to the bloke.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 5:31:44 AM
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Village idiot,

You continually complain to the moderator. Hypocrite.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 7:45:17 AM
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My, my, a senior LIBERAL NATIONAL PARTY member has been charged with MURDER. Senior LNP Gold Coast Councillor Ryan Bayldon-Lumsden has been charged today with murdering his mother's partner. Oh dear what is the world coming to!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 24 August 2023 6:53:37 PM
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