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Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.
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Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 13 August 2023 6:21:40 AM
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Dear Paul,
You're right. The most toxic people (remember "runner" on this forum?) have been the self-proclaimed so called "Christians" on this Forum spreading absolutely consistently vile, and attacks. I remember walking out on a Mass a few years back - when what was being preached from the pulpit was shameful. A relative once bragged to me that "I go to Church EVERY Sunday!" I couldn't help thinking - "Maybe you need to?" Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 13 August 2023 9:53:09 AM
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Dear Fester,
So glad that you agree that "being told what to do..." Is not preferable. We've been doing it to our Indigenous for decades. All they're asking is to be heard on what works best for them in their communities. Glad that you get it. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 13 August 2023 9:57:00 AM
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Not always been a big fan of the Catholic Church but it seems those of Catholic faith intend voting yes in markedly greater number than those of the Protestant ilk.
The Bishops statement that “This could be a significant step towards a more just and equitable Australia," is spot on. Whatever else you might say about Catholics they more often than not have a good handle on social justice issues. Good on them, in this instance at least. "The Australian Catholic Bishops Conference endorsed the Uluru Statement from the Heart in 2021, with the Fifth Plenary Council of Australia taking the same step last year." http://mediablog.catholic.org.au/bishops-issue-statement-on-indigenous-voice-to-parliament/ Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 13 August 2023 11:03:05 AM
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Dear Foxy,
If you believe that the problem is one of government telling people what to do without consultation, then why not change the constitution to make it compulsory for a consultation process to take place for any Australian resident? That way the change could benefit all Australians. If you think it essential for some then why shouldn't it benefit all? That is what equality is about isn't it? Posted by Fester, Sunday, 13 August 2023 11:19:28 AM
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Dear Fester,
Again with the hyperbole. "to make it compulsory for a consultation process to take place for any Australian resident" There is nothing compulsory about the Voice. The Federal government doesn't have to take its advice at all. So what is with all the straw men you keep trotting out? You are a Catholic though aren't you? Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 13 August 2023 11:25:23 AM
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Thanks for the 'Guardian' article, I read it, and yes the Conservative Christian Fundo mob are not only a concern on the question of the Voice, but on social issues in general. They are people with very narrow blinked views, and distort reality by misrepresentation using biblical nonsense as a reference. Fortunately they have little traction in Australia, and are mostly ignored by the majority, left to "nut off" with their delusions in some isolated corner of society. BTW, these nutters are well heeled, with a good cash flow, and some very powerful supporters in and out of politics.
I have confronted such people in the past, and they hold very strong views, and as a tiny minority they desperately try to sway public opinion their way, all in the name of being good "Christians".