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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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Dear Josephus,

No court has found that religious freedom can
never be limited or restricted - religious belief
does not put a person or religious body above the law.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 August 2023 2:40:09 PM
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Hate is not holiness.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 August 2023 2:47:24 PM
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People spreading misinformation about the Voice to
Parliament is unfortunate. Especially, the lie that
the Voice intends to get rid of the British Crown,
and so on. The author Thomas Keneally pointed out
that:

"King Charles has frequently and amiably declared that
the question of a republic is up to the Australian
people. His late mother - Queen Elizabeth II said the
same thing. Neither of them frothed at the mouth when
the republic proposition was raised."

"King Charles has often pointed out that we had the
constitutional power to bring this into being if we
choose to. "

However it has to be a national majority vote in a
referendum and a majority vote in all the states.
The Voice is merely an advisory body it has no power
to make any changes.

As Keneally said - "King Charles is not the problem -
neither is the Voice to Parliament. The lies being
bandied about that the Voice will get rid of the crown,
that Mandarin will become Australia's chief language,
that there will be tanks in the streets, and that
milk will turn to blood if we give up elitist monarchy
for fraternal republic. These are the problems ."

"These same people are rustling up equivalent
misrepresentations and misinformation to hinder the
Voice to Parliament. We have enough on our plates
with the Voice referendum on Aboriginal recognition
in the Constitution. Lies flow about that. But we should
be voting YES - because in legitimising the validity, we
legitimise ourselves including children now to young to
vote."

"Our crabbed NO vote will send us back to a pale and
demoralised and unresolved Australia. To a race of
trespassers. A YES vote will animate us and flow like a
living river among us."

The following link has more:

http://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/06/for-australia-the-question-is-not-charles-or-the-coronation-but-whether-we-at-last-become-a-republic-
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:49:38 AM
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Here's the link again:

http://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/06/for-australia-the-question-is-not-charles-or-the-coronation-but-whether-we-at-last-become-a-republic
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:55:27 AM
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Foxy it is time you listened to SBS, ABC, and NITV and many businesses to understand where we are heading. Welcome to country by smoking the visitors! Abolish the Date! Pay the Rent! Abolish the Crown and its institutions! Tell a sanitized version of History that the settlers murdered aboriginal men and raped aboriginal women. The British committed genocide and war on aboriginals! The British stole the land! That The British have destroyed the Land and waters. You will never hear a balanced view of historical facts on the said Media. This they consider justice and pay back.

Wonderful news They did invent things like how to throw a stick to wound or kill. The only inventions were weapons of war, how to kill an intruder.

Do we want to make them like us, or do we want them to remain primitive? Many have entered our way of life and flourished.
When the Voice has achieved assimilating them into our society it will have no further purpose. VOTE NO TO A PERMANENT VOICE.
Have we asked them do they want to be like us or to retain living in the Bush?
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 3:16:44 PM
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It is important to look at our history with openess and
honesty. Since the colonisation of Australia by European
settlers, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have
experienced extreme hardships ranging from the loss of
their traditional culture, languages, and homelands to the
forced removal of children and denial of citizenship rights.

This history of injustice was not taught at our institutions
of learning until recently. It has meant that many Aboriginal
and Torres Strait Islander people have been denied access to
basic human rights - such as health, housing, employment,
education, and so on. Learning more facts about Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander people is important for moving forward
and for all Australians to share in our national identity.

It means understanding the past and looking to the future.
That is what the Uluru Statement from the Heart is inviting
us to do. We have come a long way since 1788 - but there is
still work to be done.

The Australian Constitution - our nation's most important legal
document does not acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander people as the First Nations people of this country
and still includes provisions to make discriminatory laws based
on race.

Our Constitution should reflect our values of today - the values
of respect and fairness and recognise Australia's rich
Indigenous history and culture. With saying YES to a Voice
to Parliament - we will give our First Nations people a direct
pathway to advise government on solutions that are needed to
solve the complex problems in their communities. We cannot
keep on making decisions for them without their consultation.

Their request for a Voice is such a simple one. It should not
be denied. It's the only way we can all move forward to a
better united nation.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 11:08:22 AM
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