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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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"you will be a little more circumspect when using the word in the future."

I didn't use the word....you did. To describe a bi-partisan policy no less!! If it was a unilateral decision then every governmental decision is unilateral. Words have meaning. Fiddling with them to suit the moment also has meaning, but not in a good sense.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 July 2023 4:21:42 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Come on mate. When rightwingers are at a loss they will immediately dive to projection. It is a tried and true path for you guys.

I showed quite clearly that the reports did not have conflicting statistics as you had asserted, but rather than dealing with that you took a dive to the use of the word unilateral, and then you had the utter raw hypocrisy of accusing me of semantics. Which would be funny if it wasn't so boring.

It is such a well worn tactic. How about you address the substantive issues for a bit.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 31 July 2023 4:54:19 PM
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Aboriginals are an example of survival of the fittest, as only the fittest survived. They had high child infant mortality. At the time of settlement 1788 there existed between 770,000 and 1.300,000 aboriginals. Because of the scarcity of food infanticide was practiced by the mothers.
http://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2020/10/life-and-death-in-pre-contact-aboriginal-australia/

Mounted policeman William Henry Willshire:

"Says of the parts of Central Australia known to him, that at least 60% of the women committed infanticide. He tells of one woman that she had five children, three of whom she murdered immediately after birth, and she explained in her broken English: “me bin keepem one boy and one girl, no good keepem mob, him to[o] much wantem tuckout!” The women of the bush daily murder their children and do not wish to raise more than two.2"
Frail and malformed children were murdered, just because they were frail. A twin was killed (and sometimes both) because the mother could not suckle it … When a mother died while suckling a child, the infant was buried with her, and death often awaited a child if its father, died.

"Moreover, “sometimes an infant was murdered and cooked for its elder brother or sister to eat, to make him or her strong by feeding on the muscle of the baby”. Superstitions regarding twins often resulted in the murder of one or both. There were occasional cases of infants being killed to enable their mothers to suckle orphaned dingo pups instead.5"In the estimated 40,000 years of Aboriginal habitation of Australia it follows that 100 million Aboriginal infants were deliberately murdered.

It seems to be the case that many Aboriginal children were deliberately killed to be eaten. The existence of this eating of children is testified by all too numerous facts. Phil Moubray, relates that he found in the basin of the River Mitchell the Aborigines roasting and eating their own children:"

This is the society that treads lightly on the Earth. Abandon moral obligations to life, medicical care, and hospital care and live in the bush, only the fittest will survive. This is the society Foxy believes is worthy of retaining.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 31 July 2023 5:42:05 PM
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The one thing Dark Emu achieved is that it brought inventing history to light. It'll be interesting what approach will be taken by future Pascoes' !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 31 July 2023 5:56:46 PM
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Josephus you little racist prig.

We have dealt with the Quadrant article already on this forum and shown just how full of holes it was and you have decided to reel it out again.

You really just can't help yourself can you.

Get a life.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 31 July 2023 6:05:27 PM
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Hi traveloz,

I think it obvious that indigenous Australians were intelligent and capable human beings living a hunter gatherer existence.

I think that sophistication is a akin to Newton's view of why he was able to advance humanity's understanding. Sophistication is a construct of knowledge built by all humanity and potentially empowering those who choose to embrace it.

The irony of people like Pascoe is that they use the collective knowledge of humanity to appreciate the intelligence and capability of early Australians yet fail to appreciate the vast body of knowledge from which they draw that insight. But if he makes a film that people enjoy then good for him. 8.1 billion humans will keep living regardless of whether they are aware of the sophistication that enables them to live.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 31 July 2023 7:56:43 PM
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