OH! I forgot we live in a pagan society; it is just we have learned to murder infants before birth and cannibalize their bodies for science.
In 2005 estimate it was found that 83,210 induced abortions were performed, with women aged 20-29 years who were the most likely to present for abortion. The resulting estimated abortion rate in Australia was about 19.7 per 1000 women aged 15-44. Though this figure included stillborn. Currently terminations across the country are 13.5 per 1,000 women, or 65,000 per year.

Aboriginals abandoned unwanted births if they could not support them or cannibalized them. Those that lived on the Coasts were better off as they had unlimited source of seafood.

The shame of the stolen generation is nothing compared to the practices of infanticide. Truth telling must start and abuse of children and women has not abated in a pagan society.

Child abuse, and sexual abuse done by so many - is also
rampant in this "civilized" country of ours.
Domestic violence, rape, murder, et cetera is still
part and parcel of our nation. One has to only watch
the news. So before pointing any fingers - lets clean up
our own communities before pointing out the faults of
others that we don't really know or understand and has nothing
to do with the YES Voice to Parliament.

Josephus needs to pay a visit to any Protection Unit
of the State's Human Services Department and see
what really goes on in this "civilized" predominantly
Christian country of ours. The truth and facts may
sshock.

Foxy, paganism knows no boundaries on human life, a true follower of Christ will not destroy another human by violence or chemistry. Many church goers are equally pagan in their lives. But to promote a culture that is based in paganism destroys the values of Judea-Christian society. Currently it is this society that is being condemned as evil by paganism.

Dear mhaze,

You say: "SR I appreciate that you've managed to find one other apologist".

Mate, that is one more than you have.

Look if you are going to counter an argument which has been sustained with a direct quote you really do need to provide something to balance it. So far zip.

Josephus,

Spontaneous abortions occur at rates of 10 to 20% without outside intervention.

Which means from your perspective your God is the greater aborter creating pain, misery and loss on an unimaginable scale. This is the work of your so called loving Christ.

Own up to his role in terminating the lives of millions children every year. At least back in the day he confined himself to the wholesale slaughter of firstborns. Now all children are at risk it seems.

Disgusting.

SR,

Oh you want quotes to prove you're talking through your well-worn hat....from the ABC so we know its true....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-21/rudd-stands-by-nt-indigenous-intervention/2479408

"Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has told the Queensland ALP Conference on the Gold Coast the Government remains committed to the Northern Territory Indigenous intervention. [said one year AFTER the intervention].

"But Mr Rudd says the intervention has made a major difference."

"Important progress is being made, with more police on the ground, people feeling safer, 11,000 health checks for children with follow-up treatment," he said.

"[There has been] a major investment in housing and infrastructure and 200 additional teachers being recruited over the next five years, to teach the 2,000 children previously not enrolled."

He also told the conference that the Commonwealth has learned a lot from the first year.

"One year on the Australian Government remains committed to the response and determined to maintain momentum," he said.

"Its effectiveness is critical to the change that's essential if Indigenous children are to be safe and healthy, growing up in families and communities which nurture and protect them."

Stand by....SR doesn't want that to be true so we'll be told it isn't.