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National NAIDOC Week

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Dear Foxy,

"How white are you?
And who has ever discriminated against you"

One of my grandfathers was illegitimate and felt ashamed his whole life for this as people of his age were shamed by the community for this circumstance.

In this discussion I see history being used in like fashion, as it was in past times, to make people ashamed of their heritage and of themselves.

It is good to see that indigenous Australians are now proud of their heritage instead of feeling shamed by it, but I feel that things will be better when people live their lives by who they are and are not judged by their heritage. Using an archaic part of the Constitution that upheld the white Australia policy does not seem like the right path to advance.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 14 July 2023 7:28:40 AM
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you agree with that nonsense,
Paul1405,
No more than agreeing with people turning into a lump of rocks etc.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 14 July 2023 8:15:15 AM
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SR walks back his " young earth thinking" assertions but pretend forgetting that he said it.

"I fully accept that there appears to be around a 10% DNA matching between North Aboriginal tribes and the Indian genome which is possibly the result of migration around 4,000 years ago. "

Oh good. SR did some of his famous 30 second research.

"There is zero evidence it came from the Sentinelese."
So far. Josephus says the information will be forthcoming and I'm prepared to wait and see.

"Now you are claiming "Indians displacing or overwhelming the northern Australian peoples" which doesn't equate with 10% DNA matching."

Well that's not at all what I claimed. You really are pretty slimy at times. I posed the question and answered that it's a possibility pending further data. It is well known among those who do more than 30 minute research that there was a dramatic change in northern-end technology and lifestyle around the time, so 'possible' seems the reasonable response.

Oh and by the way, this is about mtDNA not DNA.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 14 July 2023 9:26:03 AM
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Dear Fester,

That's the whole point. If people learn the truth about their
ancestry - and the richness of their culture they will have
every reason to take pride in who they are and what they
can achieve. We need to give them the chance they are asking.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:05:33 AM
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Dear mhaze,

Are you really trying to walk back “Somewhere between possible and probable.”? That is disingenuous right off the bat.

And you keep trotting out “SR did some of his famous 30 second research”. Mate you are the one pushing Simpson's distorted narrative when even the most basic of research would have shown it for what it was. Added to that you didn't even recognise it was a direct rehash of what you had tried on before. If mine is 30 second research then yours is the 2 second variety.

And I'm certainly not walking back my young earth analogy. While I don't think Josephus is an outright creationist he has quite blatantly sought to insinuate aboriginal culture is imported and only 4,000 years old rather than the estimated 60,000.

As to you waiting for the supposed book I wouldn't be holding your breath.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 14 July 2023 2:01:08 PM
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SteeleRedux,
I think the confusions come from the terms used in such discussions because culture is given the same meaning as existence !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 14 July 2023 4:53:11 PM
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