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Posted by Shaggy Dog, Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:40:28 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Bollocks. You can't regurgitate a data point and call it two like you just attempted. That is post-truth thinking and idiotic. I went to the source and have plainly shown your bloke not only misspelt the author's name but, far more egregiously, fudged the content to make it sound as though it was an observed fact rather than the inference it clearly was, but you refuse to acknowledge it. So the question really is why it is so important to you and the author to propagate this evident mistruth? You claim: "I've seen more than a few investigations into stone age people's need to consume their own in times of severe want". Yet you can't provide a single reliable one about Aboriginal Australians. Rather telling really. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 13 July 2023 1:09:57 PM
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"What a pig ignorant statement from an unapologetic troll.
Go away." Don't worry Josephus, that's just SR throwing a tantrum when his most cherished fables are challenged. I am well aware of the research that shows substantial contact between aboriginals and Indians 4000-odd years ago (although its more accurate to say 141 generations ago) and that that contact may well have been so substantial that the current Carpentarian aboriginals are in fact the descendants of those immigrants. As I understand it, mtDNA from aboriginals across the top end shows connections with peoples from India around 2000 BC which also lines up with the arrival of the dingo, some new technologies and new food processing methodology. Therefore, if you have any links to this upcoming book you speak of, I'd be very interested. It has long been supposed that there were at least three waves of aboriginal arrivals long before Cook which roughly equate to the three ethnic groups of Carpentarians, Murrayans and Tasmanians. But this new research might end up moving the Carpentarian invasion to fairly recent times. Much of what I've read on this suggests its too early to make definitive assertions. So again I'd be interested in any new research or interpretations. On the downside however, I'm understand that aboriginals are so worried about the ramifications of the research that they are now claiming ownership of the mtDNA and trying to put an end to its testing. So the whole thing could be a race against time between the censors and the researchers. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 13 July 2023 1:51:30 PM
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Steele, I am quoting the DNA evidence, and its links to an India DNA. Their DNA is linked back to 55,000 years to a common ancestor the same as the Sentinelese.
http://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2017/release/dna-study-of-indigenous-australians Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 13 July 2023 1:58:36 PM
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Dear Shaggy Dog,
The Voice referendum is NOT a "quick fix," but a turning point for our nation. If the Voice succeeds our Indigenous people will be able to have a say in the decisions that affect them and put forward solutions for the challenges they face which currently are being made without them. Read the link I gave earlier by Dr Josie Douglas. mhaze, How white are you? And who has ever discriminated against you Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 13 July 2023 2:13:00 PM
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BTW: It's all right to be white.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 13 July 2023 2:14:28 PM
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A Yes/No vote is a try at a quick fix.
It will fail as many other well intentioned ideas have. Too divisive.
Time and education is where the real fix is if there is ever to be one and even then it will need to be ongoing well beyond our lifetimes and that of our children. SD