Pericles.. you need to keep up.. we discussed the mosques under radical control in another thread. I did get one point incorrect though, here is the story
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480470&in_page_id=1770

600 out of 1350.. more like 44% .... not insignificant.

Now..Ginx... back to you :) I'm not sure what is going on in that head of yours, but I sense a lot of hostility...

You are turning a 'discussion' where various sides to an issue are able to air their thoughts, be supported, rebutted, refuted and so on.
Why is this suddenly 'MYYYYY' agenda ? We are both sharing on thread which has a 'topic'... where we are discussing an important issue of relevance to our futures.

You are very passionate about us not condemning an 'ENTIRE PEOPLE' (Muslims) but why are you not equally passionate about US as the 'entire' people who's values are diametrically opposed to those of Islam ? Something is not gelling here.

If I and others were criticizing National Socialism in 1936 would you be railing against us for 'condemning an entire people' (Germans) ?

This is where you reasoning seems to break down. The only place you can logically go from there is "Oh..but Islam is not at all like or as dangerous as National Socialism" and then, we can debate that..

That's how progress is achieved. Your current position seems to be that you don't see danger in ANYthing..except those like 'me'.

Next thing, if I oppose male domestic violence you will charge me with 'condemning an entire gender..men.

C'mon..give progress a chance :)
I spose if I warn against 'overseas call centres' we would be on the same page ? :)

Boazy: "If I and others were criticizing National Socialism in 1936 would you be railing against us for 'condemning an entire people' "

I think that if you and the other Islamophobic rabble-rousers had been around in 1936, you would have been "criticizing" the Jews rather than the Nazis. Your hateful rants have far more in common with Nazi propaganda than you will acknowledge, to your very great shame.

This is, of course, why you attract ridicule from others who have witnessed your utter intransigence to reasonable argument. You're a lost cause, Boazy.

Sieg Heil!

BOZO,

"I have made my opinion on Islam bashers (your terminology..) so damn clear.

What drives you David BOAZ is your intelligence yes; and your obsessively driven charter that you WILL bring people to YOUR path of true righteousness whether they like it or not.

If your fella exists; you know..; the 'He' fella; AND He is all that you feel He is............; then I guarantee you BOAZ; he would be ashamed of you. ASHAMED!"

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"Ginx, sorry to repeat a lot of what you have already said, but it is a message that needs to get through somehow, as I think you would agree."
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 20 September 2007 1:54:04 PM

Sorry Pericles, I meant to respond to this.

Agreed kiddo. And I'm not going to stop until it stops. (In for the long haul...!)

Well there you go.. again.. CJ... GINX.. failing to even consider a position on its merits, but attacking 'the man' in boringly predictable manner..

When you actually address the issues raised.. I'll stop asking the questions.. because then I'll know that people are actualling 'thinking' rather than simple 'mindless emotional reaction'

CJ tries to deflect reasonable discussion by using 'Jews' as a bait.. then his signature outburst "Seig Heil".... all of which are indicative of lack of argument, fact, understanding and willingness to engage on the issue.

The SIMPLEST way to reduce my own sense of urgency on such things, is to actually agree with me :) but of course.. that was said in jest.. no.. seriously now..

1/
Regarding the UK situation.. if 44% of the mosques are controlled by a radical sect which openly condemns Western values, and has all the hallmarks of a totalitarian, barbaric, compassionless, rule of 'Allah'
.... is it not 'reasonable' to be concerned about this, and

2/
Learn from their situation, (In Australia)and seek ways of applying those lessons to government policy on:
a) Immigration
b) Immigrant resettlement
c) Multi-culturalism
d) Citizenship/Values training in Education.

SUCH that... we decrease rather than increase our exposure to a similar situation?

Now.. its a 'yes'...with reasons.. 'no' with reasons.. or.. a bit of both.. with explanation/reasons.
This is where responsible, caring, responsible, thinking people stand.. on ISSUES... rather than 'Seig Heil' or.. 'repeat/repeat/repeat'.....

David
you might bellys thread on skilled labour interesting.
`Some Muslim groups` have an agenda to take over yes.

Its knowing with people to support and which not to is the real key to success.

If we dont spend more time undestanding the difference between these people you are right there will be problems here as well.

Soon I will start a thread to discuss what problems we are facing here in Australia and why they are so important to us to kerb before they start.

Dr Ali the X President of AFIC who originally signed pales MOU putout a story in the Muslims times a few weeks ago.

We have agreed I will introduce a thread or write and article in which he is happy to participate.

We hold serious concerns with the integrity of some of the new heads of AFIC.

In fact we have walked away with great dissapointment and a feeling of betrayal.

It is vital that AFIC leaders make every effort to be part of projects outside just Muslim interests and carry through with long standing agreements to work united with all Australians.

Very much in the spot light will be a clear definal by some to go against the grain of our most basic laws by pre stunning Animals before Slaughter.

The Federal government are hold to a re view and are under being pushed to turn Australia into a Ritual Slaughter country which is of course really cruel.

This will mean Australia will be under Islamic extrenme law make no mistake about it.

Muslims have long excepted pre stunning of Halal Slaughter `except the extreme ones.

This has far reaching ramifications not only animal cruelty although I will addmiit its our first concern.

There ARE other Muslim leaders who oppse this and want to only pre stun.
In our opinion we would encourage the newly elected preident of AFIC Ikabel Patel to stand down. Our Governments must NOT agree to this.

Mean time David I will email you Dr Ali`s report from the Muslim times for you to read.

Thanx Pale... looking forward to the thread.
cheers