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Stan Grant quits Q&A over racism concerns.

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My very first, first hand experience with so-called racism was with a member of a famous black Band playing in Brisbane in about 1975. The venue was very crowded & I was pushed accidentally against this Band member who turned to me & hissed “watch it white $hit”. In my 40 years of living in indigenous communities in Northern Australia, I have witnessed racist behaviour from indigenous & non-indigenous alike but generally, these incidents were forgotten as quickly as they started.
The most common instigators were those of mixed heritage. I recall some Navy blokes getting very obnoxious when they got drunk but as soon as things got heated they were shoved off. That was in my times & I can only guess what it was like when superstitious bone-heads clashed a hundred & more years ago. The ignorance of people was the cause of all the racial problems & many haven’t learnt a thing still ! Stan Grant included.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 27 May 2023 7:32:46 AM
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From my viewpoint, Stan Grant uses the mentality of using “a truth that’s told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent” !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 27 May 2023 7:38:33 AM
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Indy you say;

"The ignorance of people was the cause of all the racial problems". Not so, colonial racism was driven by the Europeans desire for LAND for his industry. Like in other parts of the world where the European colonised, the take over was often resisted by the prior inhabitants, in Australia it was Aboriginals. There was a well orchestrated government policy of necessary dispassion of the native to facilitate European settlement. It was not simply the work of renegade knuckle draggers filled with hate for black people and intent on their destruction. The subjugation of aboriginal people as government policy continued until very recent times. Racism still exists today in Australian society, there are racists still, some are posting on this forum, hopefully with understanding and positive action we can move on to a more enlightened and equal society, where no Australian is discriminated against. The key is recognition, truth telling and positive action, we are not quite there yet,but we are making progress.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 27 May 2023 8:23:44 AM
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colonial racism was driven by the Europeans desire for LAND for his industry.
Paul1405,
Yes, that too is ignorance as greed is ignorance ! Just like those who sold their people to slavery & just like the pretend Aborigines who think their other heritage is somehow absolved from past wrongs !
It is also ignorance that exploits a past that can not be undone !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 27 May 2023 10:40:17 AM
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More contentless abuse Paul1405. I assume you are aiming at me. I didn't say there was no racism in Australia, just that there is less than almost anywhere else in the world. There will always be racism, just as there will always be stupidity. We are men and women, not angels, and even angels sin (cf Lucifer). https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-racist-countries

There was no genocide. That is a fact. It requires a government policy as such, and none existed. There was no attempt to extinguish people by racial characteristic either, whether by government or anyone else.

There were massacres. Some were of blacks, some were of whites, and in some a mixture of blacks and whites killed blacks. Australia wasn't a peaceful continent when Europeans arrived. People were punished, including being hung, for many of these massacres.

You have a curious idea that the arriving Europeans should have somehow involved Aborigines in the higher reaches of society rather than as servants. That would have been strange.

My forebears were servants, and no one thought they had a duty to raise them up. They did it for themselves. My illiterate great grandmother taught herself to read. She sent my grandmother to a "Dame school" to ensure she would be able to read. They pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps. Not too different to what my friend Neville Bonner did. Being left to your own devices was not unique to Aborigines, and nor should it be. What society should offer us is opportunity, what we do with it is up to us.

But ultimately if you think the colonisation of this continent by Europeans was wrong, and you are a beneficiary of it, you should think about going "home", wherever home might be. We should all do that, and take our cities, farms, mines and factories with us restoring the land to what it was. Except there is no "home" apart from here, and the benefits of colonisation by Europeans far outweigh any damage when weighed in properly historical scales.
Posted by Graham_Young, Saturday, 27 May 2023 12:02:28 PM
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Like Graham, I'm not privy to the comments on social media, and until recently I knew of Stan Grant as a professional and reasonably non-partisan presenter.

However, recently he has hopped on the "voice" gravy train in a big way and made race more of an issue than he'd ever done before even going as far as darkening his face with make-up (which has made him a media joke). In doing so as with all politicians he has made himself a target for those that find his views and posturing offensive.

While not condoning what has been posted about him, politicians with a spine mostly just ignore it and move on. His resignation could either mean that he is genuinely unable to ignore the posts or he is manoeuvring the ABC to take him back with a larger pay package and higher status. The jury is out.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 27 May 2023 12:06:28 PM
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