Jose,

If you can show me "abuse" from me to anyone on this thread, then I'll happily retract it, but until then, when I'm called a "vacuous and abusive bigot in desperate need of a dictionary", and then its backed up by an obvious nut job trying to flame, then I will respond. That includes to the likes of YOU!

Anyway, the bucket was empty and the bucket job on Stan Grant hasn't come off! End of story.

It was stated on NITV news today that by 2037 is the date set for aboriginals to have full sovereignty of Australia, where they will manage all affairs of government. The Voice is just the beginning of the program to achieve full sovereignty.

Jose'

Another one of your alarmist claims without substantiation, "2037 is the date set for aboriginals to have full sovereignty of Australia" set by whom? YOU! A bit like your claim that white people are paid to foster aboriginal children, when I called you on that, you admitted it was something you were dredging up from 50 years ago, simply to imply aboriginal people were unwilling, or incapable, of looking after their own.

We can all make claims to give a false impression.

http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/the-point/article/the-masig-statement-torres-strait-islanders-unveil-voice-from-the-deep/dr8y2x75k
Standing alongside the Uluru statement from the heart is the Masig statement of Torres Strait Island, voice from the deep.
The communities of the Torres Strait are seeking self-determination and regional sovereignty, outlined in a four-point plan called ‘The Masig Statement - Malungu Yangu Wakay (Voice from the Deep)’.

The release of the statement followed prime minister Anthony Albanese and Indigenous Australians minister Linda Burney’s visit to the region last week.

During this visit, representatives from communities across the Torres Strait Islands came together to speak to the the pair about the issues that most concern them.

The document seeks a beginning of regional sovereignty in the Torres Strait by August 2037, heralding the release of the Masig Statement as ‘the beginning of a new beginning’.

http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/grassroots-gathering-discusses-treaty-sovereignty-and-voice-to-parliament/18gyclxyj

This treaty - sovereignty was discussed in Melbourne and they do believe over the land and water they have sovereignty rights. They will not accept British colonization and Crown Land rights to Australia. They want control of Australia as it was, they believe stolen from them.

Wait a moment;

Jose' said; "It was stated on NITV news today that by 2037 is the date set for aboriginals to have full sovereignty of Australia" Australia is a continent of nearly 8 million square kilometres, and 27 million people. The area of the Torres Strait Islands is about 48,000 sq kilometres or around half of one percent of the total land mass, with a population of around 5,000 people or about 0.02% of the total population. Now Jose' is saying; "regional sovereignty in the Torres Strait by August 2037". WELL DON'T YOU JUST LOVE A LIAR! Given his track record for stretching the truth, YOU JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THIS BLOKE.

http://theconversation.com/what-we-mean-when-we-say-sovereignty-was-never-ceded-195205

"If we are to change the constitutional structure of this nation then we need to begin here, at its foundation, with the Voice to Parliament: a permanent institutional mechanism that respects First Nations by recognizing their place and sovereignty in the fabric of government".

ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Indigenous_sovereignty

http://australian.museum/learn/first-nations/always-will-be-aboriginal-land/
Uncle William’s father, Uncle Jim Bates, became excited and started telling stories of his Country and land. Uncle William said, "Dad, it’s not your land anymore, whitefellas own it," and Uncle Jim replied, "No, they only borrowed it; it always was, and always will be Aboriginal land."
“Always Was, Always Will Be” is now often chanted at different gatherings, protests and rallies as a reminder that First Nations people have and will continue to fight for their lands and their rights. It continues to respond to the lack of recognition of First Nations sovereignty that is at the core of much of this nation’s structural inequalities and marginalization.

At the Uluru statement it was determined to not just allow minimalist recognition on the Constuction but so uphold full aboriginal sovereignty.
http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/the-uluru-statement-we-never-ceded-sovereignty-but-can-we-join-yours/2uf8133fl
The statement also seeks ‘constitutional reforms to empower our people to take a rightful place in our own country’. But if this rightful place is informed by the assertion of a sovereignty that was never ceded, then such a place already exists. It does not need to be empowered or sought within other people’s constitutions, though it does need to be recognised alongside settler sovereignty.