mhaze,

Straying off topic hummmm, "Albo gave the Lowitja O'Donoghue Oration t'other day" what's that got to do with Stan Grant quitting Q&A? Maybe you can also supply those alternate figures you clam to have, re 'Frontier Wars' since you posted mine are "erroneous" and "bunkum" and you could "correct" them.

I see the majority in parliament voted for the referendum only 121 with 25 actually opposing putting it to a vote of the people. The Cow Cocky Party voted as a block to oppose even giving the people a say on the issue.

GY,

Are you still writing that essay on this Stan Grant issue? The topic is going cold rather quickly, with other matters taking centre stage.

ShadowMinister said- "vacuous and abusive bigot in desperate need of a dictionary".

Answer- Kudos ShadowMinister lol.

Interesting how some had the knives out, believing there was an opportunity presented to bucket on Stan Grant over his Aboriginality. Accusing the bloke of being an over sensitive woozy, unable to take a little bit of good-natured ribbing, or at worse having a secret agenda to exploit his heritage for advantage.

In understanding the elite aboriginal industry, they uphold the land was stolen from them without a treaty, and they have not ceded sovereignty of land. This is proved by the fact of aboriginal land councils have sovereign rights to lands and waters, and Media constant use of welcome to Country by identification of aboriginal tribal lands.

In the minds of the elite total sovereignty is the end goal, which is finally Closing the Gap; and colonists / settlers must lease the land from them, as is happening now in parts of Victoria. They cannot accept British settlement and Crown Land titles as they believe the land was stolen from them. This is why they mourn the loss of their sovereignty. Their agenda is to ultimately be ruled by Tribal Elders and not democratically elected representatives as the Westminster system.

This does not apply to remote aboriginal settlements; they do not want to see the Gap closed. This view only applies to the elite who already have the ear of Government, who want power without elected representation.

One of the Forums leading nut jobs, the bloke who believes there is a red under every bed, gets leave from the sanatorium long enough to stick his nose in and try to do a bit of sh!t stirring. Good onya Wally, better luck next time!

Paul, it is obvious to everyone except you, you cannot debate ideas just abuse debaters.