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The year of enforcement - Secondary sanctions.

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Hi AC,

Bakhmut is yet to be taken by Russia so the frustrated Russian army has targeted women and kids again in cowardly strikes. Well, I guess it is better to play to your strengths, especially when this is what happens when Russia tries to engage in a conventional war:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxABIwf3ASg
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 29 April 2023 7:02:32 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how easily some people can buy into whatever they're spoonfed, and not doubt the stories or think that they would never be the targets of propaganda or misinformation.

When it comes to wars the west is actively involved in, more than anything else the corporate media's job is to mislead, misinform or persuade the general public.

They're not there to inform you Fester.
They shape the battlefield at home with propaganda.
I just wish you people would wake up and see it.

I used to feel like I had a war against stupid
That the world is becoming so crazy that people need to stop and think and call out stupid wherever it raises it ugly head.
Now part of me thinks, hell let stupid be stupid.
- If you want to fall for whatever they tell you, go ahead.

9 civilians including a child were killed in Donetsk today and not a word about it, this happens every day.
If it was in Ukraine everyone is shouting from the rooftops but when it doesn’t suit the narrative it’s completely ignored.

Ukraine even shelled a cathedral during an Easter service.
https://tass.com/russia/1604957

You only hear what you're spoonfed sorry Fester.
I feel sorry for the women and kids you're referring to but it happens every day on the other side of the conflict.
How do you know this wasn't the result of Ukrainian air defenses?
They wouldn't tell you the truth if it was, would they?

Ukrainian air defenses blew up a tractor in Poland and who did they try to blame it on?
Of course, Putin did it.
Car won't start, your phone battery goes flat - Putin did it.
Your kid gets in trouble at school - Well that's Putin's fault.
Your cat pisses on the floor - also Putin's fault.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 29 April 2023 4:23:28 PM
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I suppose they are going to need a distraction narrative
'Blame Putin for everything horrible since they are about to lose Bakhmut and their counter-offensive is in doubt',
- firstly of succeeding and secondly of even happening

They're going to need a lot of 'Bad Putin' stories to distract and manipulate everyone with that reality about to hit the news cycle...
- Ukraine probably blew up the residential building themselves on purpose for all we know.

Everything for Ukraine is about the information war and the optics.
If Russia did it deliberately, you can bet there were military related people or assets in the building.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 29 April 2023 4:30:12 PM
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Hi AC,

I don't think the Ukrainians have much ammunition to waste. Remember that the war is in Ukraine, not Russia, so there are no Russian women and kids being killed. You might also note the recent story of Russian soldiers claiming to have been involved in the "separatist" conflict since its inception, something that Russia has always denied.

https://spravdi.gov.ua/en/world-news-agencies-and-russian-narratives-what-words-not-to-use-to-describe-the-war/

Bakhmut is yet to fall and the Russian Army has given responsibility for the siege back to Prigozhin. He looks very glum indeed, not at all like a guy about to have a big victory.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 29 April 2023 7:21:41 PM
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"I don't think the Ukrainians have much ammunition to waste. Remember that the war is in Ukraine, not Russia, so there are no Russian women and kids being killed."
- That almost makes what they're doing after a US sponsored coup that much worse;
Ukrainians willfully attacking other Ukrainians, many women and kids there too.
- The thing is Ukraine sees the separatists as terrorists and inflicts terror upon them, willfully.

Haven't read all your article yet, but what I have read supports what I said earlier, Ukraine is overly focused on fighting an information war.

As for Bakhmut, its only a matter of days before thats finished.
Ukraine's not going to mount some miraculous effort and take it back from here.
They're not going to stay holed up in buildings for months, Russia will bomb those buildings into rubble.
Arguing the city has yet to fall is kind of pointless.
Wherever Ukrainians are in the city now, Wagner PMC is coming at you head on and on both flanks.
It's over for Ukraine in Bakhmut.

They're just sending more men to their deaths trying to defend it and buy time, and mostly for political purposes I might add.

Ukraine put far too much into defending Bakhmut, and it has cost them an entire army. Russia has been happy to grind away and destroy them there.

It's just like the missile attacks on the electrical infrastructure.
If Russia wanted to put that out of action permanently I would've done so a long time ago.
They just picked at it, enough for Ukraine to keep repairing and defending it.
The real target was Ukraine's air defense, and to force them to completely diminish their stock of S300 missiles, BUK etc.
- Now it's all gone.

The West plays checkers and Putin plays chess.
It won't be too long before it's checkmate, and game over.
The west knows that everything rides on the coming counteroffensive though, which is why they postponed it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 29 April 2023 9:39:04 PM
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Baldrick,

You claim that everyone else is being spoonfed by just about every news agency in the West yet you quote solely from Russian propaganda. As you have been saying for months, Bahkmut will fall in days. You've been wrong many times before and have zero credibility.

Russia's great offensive that you were promising was a failure and has squandered the 300 000 conscripts from last year so the war criminal Putin is now looking at conscripting another 400 000 to die in Ukraine.

Russia can no longer protect anything in Crimea as the Sevastopol oil depot blows up.

Russia is losing this war
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 30 April 2023 7:13:12 AM
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