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The Bomb that failed to detonate

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SR,

So India has more people than China - so what? That wasn't even close to the point.

Canem,

Malthusian thought is based on the idea that if population continues to grow and food production doesn't grow or grows at a slower pace then.....famine. Its been wrong from the outset - even Malthus finally admitted he'd got it wrong. And Ehrlich, who wrote the Population Bomb admitted he'd completely underestimated humankind's ability to increase food production.

Its the same principle we see in lots of other areas - take one trend and assume it will continue while all other related areas remain unchanged and then declare imminent disaster. eg if we continue to use oil but don't look for or find new oil we get peak oil. But we never do.

You say that we are headed for 10 billion by 2050. But that's the point of the thread - new research showing that to be wrong given the current state of population growth. There are very few countries in the world where population is increasing and of those many (like Australia) are only increasing due to immigration and those that still have a higher birthrate than deathrate, are also showing a declining birthrate.

You may not like the numbers but just rejecting them because they tell a story different to that you're used to hearing isn't really valid.

I guess its still possible to argue that the declining birthrates are a phenomena that might reverse, but its clear that every time economic advancement kicks in, we get a slowing in population increases and eventually a declining population.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 31 March 2023 9:50:42 AM
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650,000 extra people will be arriving in Australia over the next two years.
ttbn,
How many of them will be of working age & contribute to the economy & how many will be on Welfare ?
How & by whom will they be chosen eligible for migrating to here ? Will the VOICE have a say in that or those who pay Taxes ?
Or should we rename the waters surrounding Australia Rio Grande !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 31 March 2023 3:04:27 PM
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mhaze,
I think it's fair to say the population bomb was defused by easy access to the contraceptive pill.

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Indy,
Many secure work before coming.
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 1 April 2023 9:40:10 AM
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Indy,

"how many will be on Welfare?" Dun know, but YOU can count em' next time you're pick'n up your aged welfare cheque down at 'Centerstink'.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 1 April 2023 9:56:21 AM
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Paul1405,
When I came here I found work within four weeks & worked until I retired 50 years later, paying top rate tax all the way !
Bet you've never experienced work as such !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:08:43 AM
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Indyvidual

Who knows.

There were 507,500 people UNEMPLOYED people in Australia in February 2023; yet we have 650,000 more people due to arrive over the next two years.

There are 438,500 job VACANCIES right now.

The government should be asked to comment on that. They should be asked why the unemployed are not matched up with the vacancies before absurdly high numbers of immigrants are brought in. With no BS about Australians not 'prepared' to do certain jobs.

You don't need to be very cynical to think that Australia's immigration policy has nothing at all to do with the the good of the country and its economy unless it is, as it seems, a lazy way to boost GDP and enable the mind-boggling borrowing and spending addiction to continue for evermore.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 1 April 2023 1:34:25 PM
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