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Finally Clarity The Voice Referendum Question

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The Voice is nothing more than a power grab: an attempt to change the way we are governed. It will benefit only the aboriginal 'aristocracy', and do nothing for the 20 or so percent who could do with being pulled out of the mire.

Whatever is said here will not make any difference to what happens. All we get is one vote each, and nobody seems to have decided how they will vote, or they have been silenced by 1405, who calls anyone names whose opinions differ fom his Far Left ravings.

My last few words on this shocking piece of totalitarianism called the Voice are: I will be voting NO, and I cannot understand how anyone could vote for such an appalling piece of legislation. But, if the Voice does get through, you will deserve everything it brings to you.

As the egregious ageist, 1405 says, I'm nearing the end of my life, and I am pleased about that. I really don't want to live in what this society is becoming.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 26 March 2023 8:13:49 AM
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Thanks ttbn,

If it is all legal then why not just pass the legislation and see how it goes? If it were up and running there could be consideration for constitutional change if the voice were seen to be effective, but then why would anyone want to dismantle a system that was working? I have trouble understanding why a referendum for the voice is being pushed for if it isn't needed.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 26 March 2023 9:35:52 AM
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Fester,
Exactly & ditto ttbn re the power grab !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 26 March 2023 10:15:42 AM
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The NIAA is supposed to doing everything that is claimed for the Voice, and it gets $4.5 billion every year. If the Voice were to allowed by the Australian people, the NIAA would not be disbanded and the aboriginal elite running put out of a job.

So, there is absolutely no reason for the Voice, which would be just as useless as the NIAA has been and continues to be.

The Voice is the vilest piece of political skulduggery ever threatened to be perpetrated on the Australian voters and taxpayers, who should say a resounding NO! to it and to the politicians and activists responsible for this attempted power grab with Communist Chinese characteristics.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 26 March 2023 10:48:54 AM
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Hi Fester

The reason the Voice involves Constitutional recognition (made possible by a future Yes vote in the Referendum)

is to prevent the Voice being abolished by the Government of the day as happened to ATSIC in 2004

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_and_Torres_Strait_Islander_Commission#Abolition

The PROBLEM is if the Voice becomes as CORRUPT* as ATSIC THE Government of the day cannot abolish it.

Constituttional recognition means the existence of the Voice will be above ordinary law.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_and_Torres_Strait_Islander_Commission#Corruption_investigations

Regards Mavs
Posted by Maverick, Sunday, 26 March 2023 12:06:26 PM
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Thank you for the explanation Maverick. I doesn't sound like a good reason for a referendum. With the woeful state of the coalition Labor could give the voice a good test run.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 26 March 2023 2:51:35 PM
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