Good Morning Folks,

Jews in Australia have consistently been at the forefront
of both philanthropy and advocating for human rights.
The major Jewish families are synonymous with incredibly
generous giving across a spectrum of worthwhile causes.

Walk into any hospital, university, museum, National Art Gallery,
National Theatre, and the list goes on, and there are bound to
be sponsorship boards featuring Jewish names.

Many of these families arrived in this country as refugees
from Europe like so many others with only the shirts on their
backs and worked hard to build their lives.

Giving back has been the core of their philanthropic goals
and "giving back" has been important to their sense of identity.
That is the honest truth and that is something worth celebrating
by us all.

Dear Yuyutsu,

I doubt if Foxy has scared off or silenced anybody. Like other discussions on olo this discussion seems to have run its course. I doubt if anybody is enlightened or changed. People restate views they have stated in the past. I believe David Hume was onto a truth when he stated that reason was the slave of passion. Why people hold the views they have is something we will not find out in these olo discussions. We will only find the passions expressed as best as the participants can express them in the language of reason. I thank Foxy for starting this discussion.

I have mostly enjoyed these encounters. I cannot encapsulate my views as nicely as David Hume, but I will try.

Religion is a retreat into a fantasy world. Science is an attempt to see the world as it is. It is easier to justify atrocity in a fantasy world.

Yuyutsu

You say that you "wonder how many others you (Foxy) scared away too, how many others did not have the courage and fled away too. Is your goal to empty out this forum"?

A good question; but I think you know the answer. The woman definitely keeps people 'away': not because of a lack of "courage", but because they know it's a waste of time trying to talk to obsessive, narcissistic ideologues like her, Paul 1405, SteeleRedux and a couple of other Hard Left Lunatics.

If it weren't for them, I believe OLO would attract a more moderate and thoughtful participation from people who know that these loons just set others up to attract attention to themselves, and excoriate anyone whose opinions differ from theirs.

This stupid question, Why Do People Hate The Jews, is another of the woman's 'step into my parlour said the spider to the fly' ploys to enable her to lecture and expound her own views.

If she was really interested in why people hate Jews, she would be asking the people who do hate Jews.

The woman has admitted that she "needs" OLO. What she really needs is the attention and the opportunity to bully people from a dark room.

She and her fellow weirdos will keep it up as long as they keep getting attention.

Learn about narcissists. For the average person, simply ignoring them is the best way to go.

Dear David F.,

Regarding religion, we have been through this many times and I know you hate to hear what I have to say, yet I am now forced to say it again, that unfortunately, so many bad practices pass for "religion" which have nothing to do with religion.

I cannot speak for each and every person or organisation which take people into fantasy-world on the guise of religion, but most of them, I believe, include in their fantasy-world some form or another of judgement whereby those who commit atrocities will be punished by this god or another (fantasy or otherwise besides, I too happen to believe that atrocities will be punished).

Those, on the other hand, who only believe in the physical-objective world to be the true and only reality, find nothing in its laws of physics to stop them from committing atrocities.

This is not to say that either group commits more atrocities than the other. In theory, those who live in fantasy-world are supposed "to be good" out of fear while those who do not, are supposed to commit more atrocities because they believe they can get away with it. In practice, however, people of both groups commit atrocities because they want to commit atrocities. They may or may not be afraid of the consequences but they do it nevertheless.

Dear Yuyutsu,

You wrote: "Regarding religion, we have been through this many times and I know you hate to hear what I have to say, yet I am now forced to say it again, that unfortunately, so many bad practices pass for "religion" which have nothing to do with religion."

You were forced to say nothing. You chose to defend your obsession. What you don't like in religion you deny is religion. I don't accept that. It is a dishonest defense of the indefensible.

Miriam Margolyes points out that Jews have always been
a compassionate people. Living in Melbourne I have seen
this. Lillian Frank who died recently, aged 92 was a strong
supporter of the Royal Children's Hospital as well as
Odyssey House and many other charities.

The Pratt Foundation is another organisation heavily
involved with charity work. It's the Pratt family's Visy
networks philanthropic arm that spans the breadth of
Australia, New Zealand and other parts of the region and
supports initiatives to create positive changes in
communities. Supports the Royal Children's Hospital, the
Bush Fire impacted regions, food-relief during the COVID 19
pandemic, just to mention a few.