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Our descent into Moral Oblivion.

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Ode to Freddy Mercury. Singapore 23/3/2001

Hey big guy, ur really tough,
U took life by the handle, and strutted all your stuff
U belted out the music, and let us know you’re here
U told us over and over, that u had no fear

More Lovers than Madonna, wasn’t that you’re earthly anthem ?
Boys and girls alike, u always had to have them
U chewed life up, and spat it out, u did it all ‘your way”
But when the final song is done, doesn’t our Maker have the say ?

How curious my reflection, as I consider you’re direction
The course you chose, you’re colorful life, not without sensation
Nevertheless the irony is –the songs you sang for a crust
Became your own epitath.. “another one bites the dust”

and...so.. as we continue the slide down the slippery slope of moral degeneration... lapping up what is dished out by Hollywood, and by 'Adult' web sites... justifying our 'freedom' with such mantra's as 'No one can decide what we view execpt us'...the water becomes warmer... warmer... as we sit in the beaker... and finally.. we expire.

MIUAUG is now on turbo charge.. "Human Animal genetic Hybrids".
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html
And at Stanford University in California an experiment might be done later this year to create mice with human brains.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 10 September 2007 8:15:47 AM
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So now you're recycling your old silly posts, Boazy.

You've inflicted that poem on us before, old son - certainly no need for a rerun.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 10 September 2007 9:09:58 AM
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I see I have a fan :)

CJ..that was the short version.

Now.. assure me...please... you don't have a small out of the way room at your place where you have my posts all plastered over the walls.. and a little BoazDoll that you regularly stick pins into and chant obscure mantras of cursing over.......do you ? :)

*pinch*..this is a serious issue. Pity you don't have much to offer.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 10 September 2007 2:30:32 PM
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>>*pinch*..this is a serious issue. Pity you don't have much to offer.<<

What *is* serious, is the appalling quality of the poetry.

Closely followed by the complete lack of a serious issue.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 10 September 2007 3:14:39 PM
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"as we continue the slide down the slippery slope of moral degeneration"

Well I guess we could always dump religious instruction at
schools, as its clearly a failure, and teach morality and
ethics instead.

New Scientist has an interesting article in the latest copy
that I bought. If morality is grounded in biology, why bother
with religion?

Otherwise we could always turn to religion. Long beards,
no music, no videos, no prostitution, just worship God,
just like Osama is suggesting. He's a religious fanatic
just like you Boazy :)
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 10 September 2007 3:17:40 PM
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Although I am of the opposite end of the religious scale from David, I agree that the moral fibre of our country, and the west in general, is going down the drain.

Since when is the corruption of a people not a serious issue?

Morals and decency go together. Anyone that wants to suppress them has the destruction of our society as a goal.
Posted by JSP1488, Monday, 10 September 2007 3:59:05 PM
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The serious issue is.....

Gradual..slide into moral oblivion.

The blurring of 'right' and 'wrong'..the step by step decline in many things which a generation ago were considered right and proper.. such as respect for elders.. modesty....

The preponderance of pornography at just about every petrol service station.. sex shops.. ('adult' shops) the objectification of both male and female bodies.. mainly female, the absence of a sense of moral conscience which allows young men to 'revel' in the latest bestiality they have downloaded on to their mobile phones...
and now.. the final 'animal human' hybrids.

Taken in isolation, and a gradual exposure to these things means people do not sense the overall trend..or.. feel powerless to do anything about it.. and with the emergence of post modern thinking that 'truth is what we hold it to be' or something along those lines.. each individual can respond to reality as he/she sees fit...such that people not only feel powerless, but they also feel 'why' about doing anything..after all, we have abandoned 'myths' about God... who died about a century ago...

Shows like "Californication" use names which would be more suited to some low budget 'hump,grunt and shriek' sleazy porno flick that prime time TV.

Failure to recognize the trend..and each step on the journey, or to 'repent' of such things, will inevitably be our undoing.

But 'repent'....to what ? aah..thats the question. Some might suggest we are in a better condition today than we have ever been.. 'freeeedom' is great.. they say.. but is it ?

drip...drip...drop...

Clearly we are in trouble.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 10 September 2007 4:08:57 PM
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Nice poem Boaz :)
Posted by Aunti Anti Terrorism, Monday, 10 September 2007 4:10:53 PM
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Boazy: "the absence of a sense of moral conscience which allows young men to 'revel' in the latest bestiality they have downloaded on to their mobile phones...
and now.. the final 'animal human' hybrids."

Boazy, I've noticed that when you launch into one of your 'moral oblivion' rants, you frequently reveal a rather unhealthy obsession with bestiality. Since you're apparently better informed than I am, please tell us what forms of bestiality are now apparently being practised with mobile phones? I shudder to think...

You also frequently complain about pornography being on sale at petrol stations - it occurs to me that when I purchase fuel (as I do far too often) I've never actually noticed pornographic material on sale. But then again, I haven't gone looking for it.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 10 September 2007 4:29:32 PM
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I heartily recommend the documentary series currently being repeated on SBS (Sunday nights) called "Decadence" to anybody interested in this social phenomenon.

It puts many seemingly innocent things into their correct context.
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 10 September 2007 4:45:03 PM
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Boazy, I'm assuming that the "Our" in your title refers to those trying to live by what are almost prehistoric moral codes. I completly agree with the sentiment.

Of course anytime you choose to put aside those bit's that are about control, ownership and lack of respect for the rights of consenting adults you might find the descent to "Moral Oblivion" halted and find yourself engaged in an ascent towards a meaningful Moral/Ethical code that recognises the realities of human nature, that has respect for other peoples autonomy and is not built on hate or unnatural control.

Thanks for reminding us all of the failings of those almost prehistoric moralities and the need for us all to continue to ensure that our moral foundations are structured for the world we live in and the understanding we have of it. Imagine trying to live based on the understandings of 60 years ago let alone from thousands of years ago - I shudder at the prospect.

CJ Morgan, just be glad 9 year old girls have not come into it (yet).

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 10 September 2007 6:00:02 PM
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It's only a matter of time, R0bert.

>>CJ Morgan, just be glad 9 year old girls have not come into it (yet).<<

Then we'll have to run the whole gamut of MIUAYG, followed by the accusation that every atheist is a vicious animal, just waiting to prey on the weak and defenceless.

Night follows day.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 10 September 2007 6:24:50 PM
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BD I am not even happy often and no way Gay but have you ever heard the music Freddy and his group made?
Heard the words the meaning and the pain?
An old rocker from way back box of country and western, if it is music I have it!
I could find plenty to bleat about if I looked but why look?
We are and always have been driven by sex, I think Christians have done more harm than good getting involved in our bedrooms.
NO I am not promoting ANY KIND of sex other than normal, but gee please!
Tell you what here is your next thread, my best mate is a little foxy female dog, she would die for me I for her.
Find out why Muslims think we should not have dogs.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 September 2007 6:38:14 PM
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CJMorgan, I recently discovered that my mobile phone has an inbuilt thermometer. I shudder to think...
Posted by palimpsest, Monday, 10 September 2007 8:13:55 PM
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Well I think that BD should really consider becoming a muslim.

With four wives, he would be too buggered to fantasise about all
those so called "evil" things, that others might get up to :)
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 10 September 2007 8:35:59 PM
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Boaz, if raw sewage is being dumped into the reservoir, buy bottled water. This applies to our sick, decadent, debauched society.

Even non-religious people can still appreciate and respect the impact of Christian ethics and thinking on Western culture. Most would identify the link between the decline of Christianity in the West and the moral breakdown of our society. But there isn't much us 'moralists' can do these days without being vilified.
Posted by Dresdener, Monday, 10 September 2007 9:07:08 PM
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Most interesting to note the variety of responses.

I didn't get much detail on the exact type of bestiality, my mate just related it in general terms.

Rob.. I appreciate that you always try to give reasoned and clear answers. Theologically you and I are chickens and ducks at the moment as you know.. i can only offer my view and opinion here.

I simply feel that without a stable moral reference.. we will continue to sink...

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22402392-5006014,00.html
As radio ratbag and aggressive reality TV judge Kyle Sandilands blitzed Sydney radio ratings survey yesterday, the explosive sex scenes in Channel 10's provocative Californication created a ratings boon for the network.

Trouble with all this is...

Todays "shock" is tomorrows 'boredom'.. so..next step ? How do commercial networks and movie producers continue to 'differentiate' themselves and make money ?

The thing about '2morrow' is that there is a day after it..and after that..and so on.

How this is not obvious (and the moral implications) is a riddle to me.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 13 September 2007 9:44:05 PM
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I suspect many things are a riddle to you Boazy. The way real sustained ratings are achieved on television is through decent writing and well structured drama (or comedy, or whatever), witness such shows as LOST, or Law and Order etc. Even reality shows are starting to lose their appeal as the unstructured drama novelty factor is wearing thin....

Sexual titillation without decent plot lines and writing will only serve ratings transiently, as you already know, but it is a bloody stupid argument to think that it's a slippery slope to pornography or moral oblivion. That won't rate much at all, especially since the average viewer will only watch porn for a very limited amount of time.
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:04:10 PM
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Everyone should be their own censor. In a true democracy, one should be allowed to listen to or watch almost anything except that which causes harm to others in its production. It's then up to us how we act afterwards.

Banning pornography will not stop sex-crimes. It will only create a black market. Think of the American prohibition years.
Posted by Frank N Stein, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:38:23 PM
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Everyone should be their own censor. In a true democracy, one should be allowed to listen to or watch almost anything except that which causes harm to others in its production. It's then up to us how we act afterwards. It's rubbish to believe that watching a violent film causes real violence, otherwise I'd watch Superman then fly out and take on the bad guys (with my underwear on top).

Banning pornography will not stop sex-crimes. It will only create a black market. Think of the American prohibition years.
Posted by Frank N Stein, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:45:35 PM
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