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The Economic And Political Lies Of Morrison

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http://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/australian-values-and-the-deceitful-dogwhistling-of-peter-dutton,10228

http://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/reactionary-succession-peter-dutton-australias-new-opposition-leader,16431
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 6:04:24 AM
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I don't see Dutton’s name mentioned.

The real 'untruths' come from activists such as Crikey and embittered self-promoters like Niki Savva; and, of course, the mainstream media.

The Opposition needs to start challenging these people, and the government, and forcing debate.

I recently watched a debate called 'The Mainstream Media Is Not To Be Trusted', in front of an audience that had said that they did trust the media by a small majority - 52% - 48%.

After the debate, that audience decided it did NOT trust the media - 68%-32%.

People believe all sorts of tosh they see and hear, particularly if it suits their own bias; but when things are investigated and debated rationally with examination of the facts - not beliefs and emotions - they always change their minds.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 6:20:35 AM
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ttbn,

Paul and I have given you just some of what's on the web.
There's much more there - including books that have been
published. You can also fact-check the data as well as
check for media bias ratings of what's being reported.

We have no control over what you choose to believe - however
on the law of averages and looking at the last federal
election results - Australian voters kicked these guys out.
That in itself speaks volumes.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 7:03:17 AM
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ttbn,

I gave you a link to the 'Independent Australian' and Alan Austin concerning Dutton and his falsehoods peddled in his budget reply speech. Its unlike the far right media you familiarise yourself with would 'rat' on their boy Dutton. The mainstream media mostly see Dutton as irrelevant and don't bother reporting his falsifications.

For an exercise lets take one blatant falsehood Austin said Dutton made.

“Australia emerged from the [COVID-19] pandemic in an economic position the envy of most nations with debt lower than any other major advanced economy.”

According to the latest data from the World Bank’s development indicators, advanced countries with lower central government debt than Australia’s include New Zealand, Sweden, Switzerland, South Korea, Taiwan, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Estonia, Georgia, Uruguay, Turkey, Malaysia and Peru.

To add, name any world leader that made a statement that they envied Australia's lower than their nations economic debt. Do you dispute what Austin has said; there are name by the World Bank 13 countries with lower central government debt than Australia.

The balls in your court! Of course you will simply ignore, as you do
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 7:21:01 AM
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Foxy

What I am unable to understand is: why can you not simply list the 15 lies that you say Peter Dutton told.

Please tell me what the lies were.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 7:26:53 AM
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Hi Foxy,

ttbn is trying to be obtuse on this, pretending to be unintelligible on the matter, did I say pretending, erase that, he's not pretending, he actually is.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 7:50:06 AM
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