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The Forum > General Discussion > Traditional Conservatism In Australia Might Be Finished

Traditional Conservatism In Australia Might Be Finished

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In 2007 after Rudd's convincing win plenty of left-whingers were crowing about the downfall of conservatism and predicting that conservatives would be out of power for a decade.

3 years later Krudd was out and Juliar had a minority government, and 3 years after that Labor was wiped out by Abbott, and not to return for nearly another decade.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:05:19 PM
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Australia has been changing beyond recognition because of mass immigration and multiculturalism since 1788, when the first influx of modern times began. Those first migrants didn't integrate at all with the inhabitants, but maintained their own culture so right from the start there was 'multiculturalism'.

Between 1851 and 1871 the Australian population quadrupled from 430,000 people to 1.7 million as migrants from across the world arrived in search of gold. The migrants then made up 75% of the population. The equivalent today would be the population going from 25 million to 100 million between 2022 and 2042, which is not going to happen with current migration rates.

While the bulk of the gold rush migrants were from Britain, there were substantial numbers from China, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, the USA, New Zealand and the South Pacific. Now, 150 years later, most people wouldn't realise that those sheep graziers in WNSW (whose great-uncle died at Gallipoli) are descended from Chinese immigrants of that time, and would be definitely unaware that my grand-daughter's middle-name has been passed down through the eldest daughter in each generation from her Swiss-Italian gold rush maternal ancestor who actually came here from Argentina (several recipes have been passed down too!).

This IS Australia. Mass immigration and multiculturalism. This is who we are and how we became who we are
Posted by Cossomby, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:10:52 PM
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Hey Cossomby,
Fair enough, but - They never had universities with divisive identity politics and critical race theory and ethnicity quotas back then...

'Change' is always met with 'Challenge'
Is it change for the better or change for the worse?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 15 December 2022 1:22:05 PM
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shadowminister,

But … I think it will be a lot longer than 3 years before what passes for an opposition now will dislodge bread-and-circuses Ockernese. I think it's going to be the Benedict Option for us.

Cossomby,

You are drawing a very long bow there. History has really gone awry since your third paragraph events: the rot started to creep in 50 years ago - when people very different from those who did all the hard work, made all the sacrifices, were replaced by inappropriate and unnecessary immigrants when the country had already reached its optimal population of 13 million people.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 December 2022 1:22:47 PM
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Dear Cossomby,

Beautifully said.

I could give you a hug. You've summed things up so well.

This is precisely who we are.

My children and my grand-children's
names have also been passed down through generations -
from their Lithuanian, German and Russian ancestors -
and my nieces and nephews from their British,
and Scottish ones. Who by the way
settled here as cattle farmers decades ago.

We all have our stories. And we're all a part of this nation
and have been as you point out - from the very beginning.

We are One and We are Many
And From All the Lands on Earth We come
We have a Dream and Sing with one Voice
We are - You are, we are AUSTRALIAN!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 15 December 2022 1:25:34 PM
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How out of touch is Mr Potato Head and his mob, they just voted not to given Australian households a price cut on their power bills. They would prefer to line the pockets of multinationals, big coal and big gas corporations! Now that's a vote winner. Thanks to the GREENS winning concessions from the government battlers will be better off. The Tories tell us they don't want to interfere with Big Businesses mega profits, another vote winner.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 December 2022 1:37:10 PM
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