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Traditional Conservatism In Australia Might Be Finished

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Foxy

All of the people you mention, including your own family, have pretty much the same, compatible, culture as I do. I don't see what your point is. You are not addressing or recognising the multicultural aspects - the point of the post.

AC

A donkey vote is straight down the card, 1 to 6, on the paper. Only idiots do it. As Is Mise told you, you can put a blank paper in the box. No candidate will benefit from that. Or, you can write 'none of these' on the paper ditto result.

Aidan,

Do you really expect an answer to such an insulting question?

Indyvidual,

Wait until they get the Voice - that other piece of totalitarian manipulation by skin colour.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 9:40:01 PM
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The Conservatives failure is of their own making, it has nothing to do with migrants or multiculturalism, but much to do with the Conservatives failure themselves to adapt to changes within Australian society, the countries social and economic aspirations. Like the dinosaur, the Conservatives failed to adapt to a changing (political) environment, with their message of "do nothing" having total lack of appeal to the bulk of Australian voters. Where to for conservatism in Australia now, continue to preach the "do nothing" message and therefore join with the dinosaurs and head for (political) extinction. Me thinks so.

The last hurrah for conservatism in Australia was the Howard government, unceremoniously dumped by the Australian electorate in 2007. Abbott tried for a revival in 2013/15 but was an abject failure. Turnbull tried to turn things around for the Coalition with a hamstrung attempt at progressive politics, but the conservatives within put paid to that, and installed the Morrison clown in Turnbull's place. With Labor in power the Liberals have installed a Mr Potato Head as their choice of leader, a bloke who doesn't know which way is up.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 10:55:39 PM
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It's not multiculturalism or immigration that's changing voting patterns.

It's the fact that the number of baby-boomer "rusted-on" voters for both major parties are now equalled by the number of younger GenX voters who have different agendas and different opportunities and the major parties no longer meet their needs. They will never have the benefits of free Uni education or home ownership in most cases.

In addition, the conservatives have drifted so far to the right and been infiltrated and controlled by extremists and religious fanatics (like the US Republicans) that their increasingly moderate members are deserting them for independents like the Teals. Such people are now labelled as being "Lefties" but they are the true conservatives because what people called "conservatism" is now "neo-conservatism" and not what it used to be.

The chances are another party will be created to fill the gap and drag politics back toward the centre.

It's simple maths and history and nothing conspiratorial.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 11:52:37 PM
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ttbn,
>Do you really expect an answer to such an insulting question?
Yes, although your failure to provide one suggests what you considered to be insulting was actually correct.

If you insult such a large proportion of voters, don't be surprised if you're called out on it.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:05:25 AM
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Hey Aiden and ttbn,
Thank you both for the info.
I think I actually did vote the senate according to a how to vote card last time.
(But I may have defaced another ballot at some point)

I'm not necessarily against immigrants, but I don't really like the 'multicultural' agenda so much.
I'm not sure we should be taking 200,000+ per year.
- And I don't like having rules decided by the UN instead of us.

I don't like the ethnicity or gender employment quotas, I think jobs should be given on merit of who is best to perform said job.

I'm not gay, but I'm not necessarily against gay people.
I just don't have any reason to celebrate them, but I certainly don't care to police what others do in their bedrooms.

I'm not against doing things which are better for the environment, but I don't support cutting off ones nose to spite ones face.
I don't wish to blow up all the coal plants and raise the cost of business and living, and I don't like policies dictated by foreigners.

I'm not against protesters, but I don't support people gluing themselves to a road or parking cars across train tracks.

I'm not opposed to defending our country, but I don't want us dragged into wars because of others.
If you asked me if I support the US or China, I'd rather support our country and it's interests.

I'm not opposed to medicare, but I don't think people should pay for others sex change operations.

I don't want idiots having firearms, but I don't really want to take them away from responsible people who do need them in the course of raising livestock.

I don't support all these globalism agendas, but I don't identify as a sovereign citizen,
(even though I have had my share of conspiracy theories)
They'll just mentally back themselves into a corner fighting a losing battle against things we can't change.

And I don't want to be a politician, I care more about good policies than standing in front of a camera or microphone.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:57:46 AM
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The filters in the Australian gene pool are now so clogged by nilly-willy immigration that only imported genes can improve things.
The dilemma for the thinking demographic is how to choose migrants who will be Nation-builders rather than the Nation users who are now out-numbering the former.
When silly Goaf declared that education should be free for everyone & his non-thinking followers have echoed that notion ever since, they all never edited their calls. They never yet corrected that education should be free to all who can qualify to enter the process of education instead of simplistically having the 'Right" to waste valuable resources & space just to be in University !
We now have 50 years of blatant evidence of the abysmal failure of Goaf's idealism & 'it's time' to consign this idiocy to waste bins of history ! Any day from now on should be seen as Day 1 for pulling our collective fingers out & free this Nation from the yoke of the Woke !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 15 December 2022 7:23:41 AM
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