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Traditional Conservatism In Australia Might Be Finished

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Australia has changed beyond recognition because of mass immigration and multiculturalism. It's going to get worse; or better, according to your view.

An intergenerational report reveals that migrants will make up 75% of Australia’s population growth by 2050 , and for every voter who weighs up policies before they vote, there are dozens more who’ll vote almost exclusively according to, ethnicity or emotional ties.

Our immigration-led model of growth is toxic to traditional conservatism; there is no future for a real centre-right: be it the Liberal Party or anyone else.

Conservatism seems to have had its day in the West - UK, USA, Canada, and most of Europe (Hungary still remembers Communism), so and there is no reason to believe that Australia will not blindly follow, as it usually does, and as it is now doing with climate/energy/price-fixing suicide.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 10:26:15 AM
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By accident or by design?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 11:28:30 AM
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Yes I thought a few years back that we in the west were approaching the "mobs of Rome" stage that quickly led to the collapse of that great civilisation, but I had not expected it to progress to western collapse as quickly as it is now happening.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 11:48:29 AM
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Politics was much more predictable in the past that's
true. However, can't blame multiculturalism or immigration
for the changes that exist today as if conservatism only
belongs to a certain ethnic group. Facts don't stand up
to that theory.

We've had people like Bartholomew Augustine Santamaria
( B.A. Santamaria) of Italian heritage - who had tremenduous
influence on conservative politics in this country.
We've had/got Liberal Premiers in the state of NSW.
And, as we know NSW is made up of a large ethnic mix.

The Liberal Party has been in power far longer in this country
than has Labor. In Victoria there are safe Liberal seats that
even during the last state election managed to stay Liberal
seats like Menzies - which has a huge ethnic mix. The Liberal
leader in Victoria John Pesutto is of Italian ancestry and
Matthew Guy's ancestry is Ukrainian.

I don't think that conservatism is finished in Australia. Not by
a long shot. And how a person votes depends on many variants.
It includes values - and as we can see from election results -
people tend to be a wide mix and they make wide choices.
Blaming multiculturalism and immigration - is very simplistic.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 12:44:01 PM
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So what happens when all candidates move to the left or embrace agendas you oppose?
Can you legally abstain from voting when no candidates represent your point of view?
A fine would mean that more money lands in AEC coffers bolstering a system that no longer represents said voter.
- Is the only path left in not supporting this system (by vote or financial contribution) to willfully choose imprisonment instead of paying the fine?

Could a person abstain from voting because it went against their personal religion of “freedom”?
- Find out which case won -
http://tinyurl.com/mtr4m9wy
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 3:49:00 PM
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There is also the path of voting informally or simply not marking the paper at all and folding it and placing it in the box.
It’s not much to ask a citizen to front up, get crossed off and thus make sure that someone else doesn’t vote in your place.
To refuse to make this small civic contribution to democracy is grandstanding.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 4:26:01 PM
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