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Forgiveness is overrated : Comments

By Helen Dale, published 29/1/2010

We should shame Tony Abbott for his hypocrisy every time he sounds off on moral behaviour.

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As I understand it, both in the church and in our courts of Law there can be no forgiveness without genuine remorse, ie I made a mistake, I intend to learn from it, and I won't do it again.
I smoked for more than 30 years. Am I a hypocrite for warning (very strongly) my daughters against smoking? No one who has never smoked can appreciate as strongly as I, how badly it affects one's health, and how good you feel when you finally beat the addiction.
Similarly, I would rather trust a driver who has had many accidents, and has thereby learnt how to respond to those situations, than someone who has somehow managed to live an entire life without an accident. Such a person is far more likely to be dead lucky, than a great driver.
Having said that, I still don't like the sanctimonious Abbott.
Posted by Grim, Saturday, 30 January 2010 10:26:09 AM
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This whole cheap gossiping about Tony Abbot merely re-inforces the stupidity of the righteous participants.

The funniest carping comes from the nations chief spinster. Like really what young woman is going to heed the advise of a middle-aged spinster ahead of the advise of her father...

It is my experience with many young woman of today that they still value a secure relationship and the prospect of babies ahead of well ... the alternatives ... one of which is still ... being left on the shelf.

You should hear the laughter among younger and older women when the words spinster and Gillard are spoken together.

Now there's something to get the gossips going.
Posted by keith, Saturday, 30 January 2010 11:07:53 AM
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I am surprised your not advocating some kind of Censure for the Interviewer . Make it illegal to have sexual relations ? Or withdraw her Journalists Certificate at least .

It was her , "a woman" who created this Loaded Dog , I bet there is plenty of Graffiti in the "Ladies" with Hat Pins driven into her midst .


I am a product of an Orange and a Green ; I turned into an Atheist as a Kid when my Gran killed my ambitions to become a Police Officer where She described the Hierarchy of the Police as "An Army run by the Tyke's" ; further Gran advised that while they may engage a mongrel like me any chance of a promotion ...well forget it ! All just described leads to this , I like Tony Abbott not because he is a Catholic but because he will answer a question , lucidely too using English as well ; I also liked his answer to "The Question" that means I liked his lucidity it was what I expected and I respect him for that , my answer would have been different but thats OK by me .
A stark contrast to Rudd who would have lathered on for ten mins and said nothing the general population could have understood and you while a talented wordsmith with only about seven words to begin with managed two pages of bile would have been hard pressed to find any in Ruddspeak
Posted by ShazBaz001, Saturday, 30 January 2010 12:09:01 PM
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Yes
I havent forgotten his risible comments that "a bad boss is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband - notwithstanding all of his faults, you find he tends to do more good than harm. He might be a bad boss but at least he's employing someone while he is in fact a boss."

He has a long long history of authoritarian, patriarchal, bigoted, sexist and misogynistic views and statements and is not to be trusted in his new guise of mr straight talking good old boy from the suburbs.
His recent statements on virginity being 'the greatest gift" (despite his personal hypocrisy) show he has not really changed. He is still a right wing christian zealot who would, if elected as PM, repress women, poor people and the sick and disadvantaged just the same as he did as a part of howards government.
Posted by mikk, Saturday, 30 January 2010 3:47:51 PM
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Regardless of whether he is a politician or not, Tony Abbott should be commended for giving a perfectly frank and responsible answer to the Womens Weekly question. On the other hand, the rambling of the writer and her supporters, suggests that they would have avoided taking responsibility for appropriately educating their children on moral matters, or else avoided answering the question altogether.
Posted by Raycom, Saturday, 30 January 2010 4:48:08 PM
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It is a sign of this author’s intellectual bankruptcy that she chooses to attack someone’s behaviour rather than their opinions. Tony Abbott was expressing his opinion and if we disagree with it then we should say so and give good counter arguments. What he does or has done is totally irrelevant unless it somehow impinges on our peace or justice. Forgiveness is not ours to give because we have not been wronged by his behaviour.

Perhaps the author is a bit obsessed with forgiveness in some other area or she has a deep seated resentment about something which she cannot let go of. To launch such an attack on someone who has done nothing wrong except fail to live up to his own misguided standards is probably a case of projection of guilt.
Posted by phanto, Saturday, 30 January 2010 6:46:03 PM
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