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By Mark Chou, published 18/1/2010A letter to the 'NT News' raises questions about equality between the sexes and how the military perceive women.
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Posted by David Jennings, Monday, 18 January 2010 5:34:25 PM
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Mark,
This is the only substance in the entire dribble.... "But who knows. I may be wrong. Campbell might, if he does in fact exist, be the man he seems to be: chauvinistic, arrogant, sexist; a man who rightly deserves the response he received from one Darwin nightclub dancer: “Put it where the sun doesn’t shine”." If the claimed author does not exist, or cannot be determined, we know not if the person in actuality is a he or a she?! Hence how does your anti-military gender specific and supposedly sensitive dribble support itself? Sorry, some of you content may be accurate, but it deserves not consideration as it is a critique of emperor's new clothes. Posted by SapperK9, Monday, 18 January 2010 7:46:27 PM
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The so called Marine, God bless him, was just the latest in the parade of Military men, to enjoy their military service, or not as they faced the dichotomy of absolutely positive and dramatic hormonal activity as a young man, and coming from America which has about 55% of active Christians in its community, balancing that against his basic training, which is in Christianity, long before he was ever a marine.
The Australian Army has exactly the same culture. They are men first, with all that that entails. The aggressiveness that makes a good soldier, is one of the first attributes of a good combat infantryman. That aggressiveness can exist in women and sometimes does. I grew up in a Celtic Family, and Celtic Women, who by tradition in times gone past went into battle with their menfolk, are often as wildly fanatical about their defence of home and family as their menfolk. Violence is no stranger to a Celtic family. Women in Celtic society were every bit the equal of men, and many a large man has lived in terror of a small but determined red headed woman. Men fight both for and because of women. Without an Army, no country is secure. As a learned author once said, the Navy and Airforce can do their worst, but the dirty work must be done by the Infantry. Ask any tradie, who titivates homes in any capital city, and he will tell you he adores women. Carpenters, Plumbers, Home Decorators, Blind men, curtain and bedmakers all survive because a woman somewhere, wants to make a loving home for her man. Sometimes the rite of passage to a stable and loving home, for a woman is the plying of the sex trade. A male who ran brothels in Africa, complained once that all his staff ran off with clients. It is said that almost all the first women in the Wild West were originally members of the oldest profession. Young women are often aggressively female, using a blunt instrument, to inflict grievous bodily harm. Not necessarily physically but emotionally. Nothing changes Posted by Peter Vexatious, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:11:44 AM
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With respect, this is an egg-beat of an egg-beat. This is from the newspaper concerned:
"The US consulate yesterday said it was unable to find a serving marine of that name who had recently been in Australia although it said Capt Campbell may have been a retired marine. The NT News has the letter writer's contact phone number and email address but attempts to contact him to defend his comments have so far been unsuccessful." http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/01/07/113851_ntnews.html The whole story stretches one's credulity and it has all of the hallmarks of a set-up to create controversy and tarnish the image of US servicemen visiting Australia. What military officer, knowing full well the importance of maintaining good relations in a foreign port, would: 1) speak out against the local women, and 2) risk his credibility and leadership with his own troops in doing so. It is extremely foolish to believe that of all service personnel, a marine officer would be silly enough proffer criticism and advice to women. Talk about spoiling his own chances and those of his men. What a screaming load of bollocks this 'news' is and what a waste of time indulging in speculative 'assessment' of a story that is most likely bogus, dreamed up by a trouble maker. Don't facts matter any more? Posted by Cornflower, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 2:06:41 AM
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I agree with Cornflower. This 'story' is made up. Facts should matter... and look at how much of everyone's time and energy has been wasted looking for the mythical letter writer.
Posted by Pynchme, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 6:58:14 AM
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This article shows how far we haven't come in gender relations. Fifteen years ago, any person who criticised any person from any other race for any reason, was likely to be accused of racism. As a broad generalisation, society has moved a long way and people now think alot more before throwing accusations about.
In relation to women, however, this blokes is being villified for pointing out the blatently obvious. Regardless of whether he has given his correct name or not, the attitude that he has expressed is very real. Dressing provacatively will only impress deadbeat blokes, out looking for something short term. The author of this article appears to be one of these deadbeats, given the way that he tells women what they want to hear. I find it quite disturbing that there has been such a large effort to identify and probably launch a smear campaign against this letter writer. How can women ever make wise choices if no-one is allowed to discuss consequences of those choices? Why are so many people still protecting women's feelings like it is 1955? Why do we feed young women so much BS about men? It isn't really protecting these women to feed them this garbage. They will only have to learn these lessons the hard way. Posted by benk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:58:54 AM
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As to the US army, the UN and the sex trade. Well its true. To be honest it just seems so much more reprehensible from the UN. Particularly when its UN aid workers etc who do these things and then run off.