To correct runner:
Dogmatic religionists hate the fact that since rigid (if often pretended) religious bigotry and stagnation have retracted, secular states have leapt forward in living conditions, science, personal freedom and lifespan.

I think multiculturalism is a difficult thing to deal with, it is interesting how runner makes it the problem of the outsider to conform. Can't really just mind your own business, can you Mrs Grundy?

The reason the good samaritan was notable was because samaritans (supposedly) wouldn't help people outside theit tribe. In Samaria, there is no tradition of the good Jew. Runner continues this tradition fairly well.

Rusty

Rusty you write

'Dogmatic religionists hate the fact that since rigid (if often pretended) religious bigotry and stagnation have retracted, secular states have leapt forward in living conditions, science, personal freedom and lifespan'

Dogmatic secular hate has far exceeded religous bigotry of the past. Violence is an everyday occurence on our streets, millions of murdered unborn babies because men and women want promiscurity with no responsibility, dramatic increase in child sex abuse fed by the secular porn industry, fatherless boys and girls leading to an dramatic increase in suicide, dramatic drug taking increase, You have fooled yourself if you think that secularism has brought freedom. Women now rarely find a faithful husband, are treated as purely sex objects much of the time and in many cases have to wear the pants in the house of men with no ... Mr think you are to blinded by your dogma to write any sense. The only idols secularist can come up with are very flawed people. No wonder their followers have no discernment.

I think this story from earlier today is relevant to this discussion:

<< The Victorian Government says it hopes another attack on an Indian man in Melbourne will not dissuade people from considering Australia as a safe place to study, work and live.

An Indian man is in hospital after being set on fire in the street in Melbourne early this morning. >>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/09/2788802.htm

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the initial police respons to the attack is to say that they "believe it was not racially motivated". That seems to be consistent with the central point of Prof Jakubowicz's article. Deny racism as a motive first, maybe investigate later.

Personally I find it interesting that only a few years ago articles concerning such crimes mostly had a description of the attackers so that the public could assist. Now I mostly don't see any description. Often all that is stated is, anyone with information is asked to contact police. For instance this latest Indian to be attacked by 4 men in a street. All of the articles I have read carry no description except for 1 article which states that Police have a description of the attackers( yet the description is not passed on to the public). Why is this information being witheld? Is it too politically sensitive. If its ok to release the ethnicity of the victim, then why can't we have at least a description of the attackers. I will bet that the immigrants are vastly over represented as attackers. Just like the recent Swedish Crime institute study demonstrating clearly that immigratns were MORE THAN 4 TIMES more likely to be responsible for violent crime. We have imported so many third world people in the last few years. Now we are paying the price. They have brought their cultures with them. Are people also aware that blacks are MORE THAN 5 TIMES more likely to commit murder than whites in the USA. Oops, sorry, I forgot, we live in a politically correct multicultural country and should mention the truth any more.

Ozzie.
The police in Vic are very reluctant to say who violent atteckers are or thought to be. You can bet this instruction comes from high, as polys don't like to admit that there are problems with some groups of ethnics. Be they immigrants or refugees, or children of same.

From another sourse, the police are considering that the burns attack of an Indian bloke in Melbourne could be an insurance job gone wrong. We will have to wait and see. SMH reveals that two men were detained at Sydney airport, questioned and their passports confiscated in relation to the murder and burning of a body at Griffith. Could involve a dispute over money, as the dead man was a contractor who employed Indian nationals.

runner, your parody is breathtaking.


Put down the pamphlet and go get a book, or check the ABS. There is virtually no violence on a per-capita basis compared to my own living memory. I grew up in a town where there were fights to unconsciousness outside pubs so regularly only yahoos would leave their beer to watch. Now it would be national news. There is drastically less of everthing else you mention. Historically infant death rates were so high that abortion could be achieved by waiting. The infant death rate is now insignificant, where once it was double digit. You want to ban aborton *and* criticise parents forced to keep children they *did not want*. Hypocrite. Fatherless children have always been with us, less now than before as we don't lose as many to war, dangerous work and disease. Historically, the neglecting father could just walk over the horizon, get far away, tell any story he wants. Women have always had the problem of finding a faithful husband, and historically had no option but to put up with unfaithful hypoctrites some with good standing in their church.

If you don't like killing babies, take it up with your god. Your own fictional god supposedly killed the first born of Egypt. Would you like to meet each of those fathers and get a message from them to deliver to your god mr hypocrite?

Ozzie: Those blacks, did they have jobs? how did the crime rate of blacks with jobs compare to whites without? The reason many requests for information have been made less informative is a product of experience. Go stand in a corner and try not to think of a white bear.
If you tell people detail, they remember what you told them. If they just recount what they remember without prompting, you get less clouding of the memory.

Rusty