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By Bill McKibben, published 24/12/2009The Copenhagen summit turned out to be little more than a charade.
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Posted by Peter Hume, Thursday, 24 December 2009 12:45:12 PM
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Peter Hume, love your work. You put your finger exactly on it.
Posted by Amicus, Thursday, 24 December 2009 12:54:56 PM
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Mr McKibben almost had me under his spell until I was jolted awake by his reference to the "sense of history that often mark(s Obama's) words".
This made me immediately suspicious of everything else he had to say. If he can't see that Obama's sense of history is ahistorical then how can we trust McKibbens science? http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson121909.html Ho Hum, Seeing as I was talking about being under someone's spell- I like your quote but I find this one gives greater insight into his character: "I am what this room looks like. I see the room as it really is. I know what everything is." You can't beat that for self-effacing spirituality. http://www.adidam.org/audio-video/video/radical-truth-1.aspx Posted by HermanYutic, Thursday, 24 December 2009 1:54:57 PM
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“It’s possible that human beings will simply never be able to figure out how to bring global warming under control…”
Of course it can be brought under control. First, unfettered consumerism must be brought under control. Secondly, Corporate America must be wiped off the face of this earth. Corporate America has set the agenda to globalise the world so that they can bring all the powerful organisations and the world governments under their control. They promote consumerism which is the main reason behind the big increase in carbon emission. Thirdly, avoid buying consumer goods made in China. When the financial crisis hit the world in 2007, the price of crude oil dropped by from about $150 to $50. Industrial production was almost at a standstill and people were more careful how they spend their money, buying only the essential things. Obama and Hilary Clinton have been bought over by Corporate America. Obama had to bail out the crooks responsible for the economic meltdown because they funded his campaign. He sent more troops to Afghanistan and Iraq to ensure the oil and opium fields are under the control of Corporate America. Obama is the Uncle Tom of Corporate America and the Saudi “royal” family. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TzcoCS2wk&NR=1 (Who is the enemy?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuaXcnFfn74&feature=PlayList&p=BA96E6470699A442&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1 (British and Saudis promote terrorism) Posted by Philip Tang, Thursday, 24 December 2009 2:07:03 PM
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odo, Leigh, phoenix94, KenH, Jon J, Ho Hum, google "Global Dimming", or GD, "the shade cloth effect". This scientifically explains perfectly, why co2 emissions, could rise, without raising temperatures. The green/red/labour coalition propagandists continue to avoid debating or even acknowledging its existence, despite the hard data.
Peter Hume & Amicus, Oh yes, "the truth will out". They never cared about AGW, just another excuse to tax everybody, except the rich, create more bureaucracy & green/red/left NGOs. Happy crass mess everybody, keep on blogging, maybe one day the politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, femanists & academics will stop trying to lie to us everyday. Posted by Formersnag, Thursday, 24 December 2009 3:44:21 PM
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“the most important nations chose not to go the route of truth-telling”
This should read “all nations…”, meaning all nations at the hot air fest. The only nation, which has chosen the route of telling the truth, was not at the Copenhagen gathering. The Czech Republic is the only nation which tells the truth about the global warming scam. Its citizens know, because their President has told them, that global warming scare mongering is based on lies, and has no validity. He went to the trouble of writing a book, "Blue Planet, Green Shackles", which gives a comprehensive explanation. There is only 11% of the population, there, believes in AGW. The other 89% believes the truth. The President, Vaclav Klaus, has approached many world leaders for their support, in exposing the global warming fraud, and has been uniformly rebuffed. There is no scientific basis for asserting that human emissions cause global warming. The IPCC Summary, devious and misleading as it is, does not go so far as to say that emissions from human activity cause global warming. It says that it is “very likely”. A statement by me that it is “very unlikely”, has the same scientific validity. None. The IPCC assert that this statement, worthless as it is from a scientific point of view, is supported by “thousands of scientists”. It was, in fact, reviewed by 700 odd scientists, of which seven, of the unconflicted scientists, agreed with it. These are the considerations ignored, in order to cater to the requirements of the morally bereft UN, to have a baseless gabfest, aimed at defrauding the civilized world. This article completely sidesteps the fact that Copenhagen should never have been convened. Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 24 December 2009 4:37:45 PM
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It failed merely because the various assembled states couldn't figure out how to scam all their subject populations simultaneously, to the mutual satisfaction of all states.