CJ, If you dislike bigots why do you like Islam so much?

TheMissus: << If you dislike bigots why do you like Islam so much? >>

Who said I like Islam? Personally, I think it's just as much twaddle as any other religion.

However, I tolerate it and people who believe in it, just as I do with other religions. I repeat, tolerance of something doesn't mean that one necessarily likes - or even approves of - it. In fact, tolerance implies quite the opposite.

The Swiss electorate has just demonstrated its intolerance unequivocally.

HermanYutic: thanks for your delightful historical profile of Muhammad - rapist, sex-slaves, abducter of little girls etc. You are obviously an expert in Arabic historical studies, far better than, for instance Professor Richard Fletcher, late of University of York and author of "The Cross and the Crescent". After all, Professor Flectcher, an expert on the subject, wrote" "the sources, if impartially evaluated, really tell us very little about the Prophet's life" (page 11). Now, I am sure you are impartial, so could you share with us the sources you have consulted? The world of scholarship will be delighted with whatever you have.

A number of commentators have posted that the Islamic world does not allow any churches. This is of course completely correct,and not prejudice speaking, but only if you discount the thousands of churches with spires in Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt and a half dozen other Islamic states.

By the way, the Swiss are delighted that their under 17s won the world cup in soccer last week in Nigeria. The entire country was euphoric. The winning pass was made by a Swiss muslim. The winning goal was scored by another Swiss muslim. Eleven of the players, that is, half the squad, are the children of immigrants. The two muslim football heros are of course fully Swiss, though their religion alone is now denied full freedom of expression.

Finally, a number of posters have said quite hard things about asylum seekers and imigrants not integrating in Switzerland. I assume that you yourselves are not immigrants, or children of immigrants, or if you are descended from immigrants to Australia, that your ancestors did their best to integrate into native, that is, aboriginal culture.

If Islam were truly a religion it would be correct to accuse the Swiss of being intolerant. But Islam is a demented and evil ideology bent on destroying non-Islamic culture, religions, secularism, etc.

Islamic countries have "religious" police arresting Muslims for not obeying "religious" laws. In Islamic Sudan women found wearing pants are liable to be given 40 lashes; in Malaysia, a woman was caned for drinking beer. Hamid Karzai (the corrupt president) passed a law allowing Muslim men to strave their wives when they refuse them sex.

http://www.loweringthebar.net/2009/09/sudan-fines-woman-who-dared-to-wear-pants.html

True religions in the 21st century don't force their followers to obey its rules or tenets; they don't need "religious" police as in Muslim countries. The faithfuls do it out of a willing heart.

The Swiss should now campaign to rid Switzerland of mosques, imams and Islamic schools.

That’s a very good article that you referred us to, The Missus. Puts it right into perspective: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-ammann/the-real-reasons-why-the_b_373947.html

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“Who said I like Islam? Personally, I think it's just as much twaddle as any other religion. However, I tolerate it and people who believe in it…”

That sounds a tad odd CJ. Why would tolerate twaddle? Why would you be an odd twaddle tolerator?

Surely if you thought that Islam was bunkum or in any way a net negative or potential negative or not a clear advantage for that matter, for non-Muslim countries to accommodate…. …. then why would you be in favour of it?

What about the premise of erring on the side of caution?

Philip Tang, it must really suck being you.

>>Islam is a demented and evil ideology bent on destroying non-Islamic culture, religions, secularism, etc.<<

I can only imagine the tension and fearfulness that you must endure every day, being on constant watch for the evil hordes of Saracens about to descend upon your suburb.

But I guess that's the price you have to pay for believing that your own religion is somehow special, or different.