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Driven by indignation at injustice : Comments

By Julia Gillard, published 5/10/2009

Collective responsibility and democratic action are necessary to ensure people can develop themselves and excel.

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Correction: my earlier post should have said "imports" not "exports".

>>The Labor Party should be more concerned with reducing the gap between the lowest and highest paid so that workers at all levels are able to function and contribute to society.<<

Pelican,

I agree. As there are always the "price takers" and "price makers" in society, a significant socialist element has to be there to represent the former. However, it should only operate as a counterlever to the equal and opposite forces of individualism. In other words, one without the other is bad news as it leads to suffocation and death (in the case of excessive socialism) and atomisation of society (in the case of excessive individualism). What we want is a smooth - not lumpy or piecemeal - balance between the two.
Posted by RobP, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 9:40:19 AM
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Julia Gillard as Minister for Education should start by educating the Australian Federal Police on their legislated role as fair and independent enforcers of the laws of the Commonwealth. The Crown they wear on their uniform, and on their badges, means they represent the Governor General in the general community.

S 61 Constitution casts the duty on the Governor General to: the execution and maintenance of this Constitution and the laws of the Commonwealth. S 8 of the Australian Federal Police Act 1979 says they have a duty to; the provision of police services in relation to: (i) the laws of the Commonwealth. The first Law of the Commonwealth is the Constitution, and every time a Judge sits without a jury he is an offender. Julia would not have had to smolder with resentment through eleven and a half years of shabby Liberal Party Rule, helplessly leading protests against workplace legislation, if she had not been miss-educated by her university.

Lionel Murphy said in 1984, If these laws would produce an inconsistency, then one prevails; the other or others are not law. A copy of the passage is posted here in this article: http://www.community-law.info/?page_id=238 Laws made by a single Judge or Magistrate without going to a higher authority, for permission to make them are not law. The English stopped single Kings or Judges and Magistrates making binding law with the Magna Carta. Almost every prisoner in any Australian Gaol is imprisoned illegally, because the Magna Carta made it the jury’s prerogative to both find guilt and set the sentence. This is part of the Constitutional Law miss-taught at university.

Even Parliament is subject to the Constitution. It exists because of it, and is confined by its principles. One of the things I love about KR was his commitment made on the 7th August 2006, in Parliament House, that his government would work within the Constitution. He was prophetic, because he had not yet even become the Leader of the Opposition, but was saying: I am willing to step up to the plate. Let the Federal Police loose, as educated enforcers
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 10:29:30 AM
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im reluctant to reply[as i can read a piece that was writen at least impart by pr...or veted via other agency...anyhow the flow dont seem like how others report you to be

im not sure about this format..clearly some will think to advise you[or think you actually read this stuff..others may use it to lobby[as my friends in nimbin have...

i advised them that the divergent state laws make the law subject/subserviant.. to federal juristion..but there is no fed regulations for drugs..and conclude my suppoting their lobby...for sanity..where docter are accountable for drugs..not police

over/of this plant deemed a drug..[that 20 out of 21 plead guilt to ...at first court appearance for simply possesing..a plant[that while living is a fixture...and harvested a healing medicinal fungable...for free pain relief

[with no adverse reactions like pescrption drugs[that kill the equivent to 3 jumbo jets per day...in usa alone...deasd...by perscribed adverse reaction..[resulting in death,from docter perscribed drugs

...wont get into the state of the workers teeth...nor those moralising sin taxes,..or the deception to get the new carbon credits into the imf controled banking system..nor the theft of our silver coin in 66..nor the takeover of the fed by bankers etc

as i allready told that to kev/wayne..tell em johan said hi...when god gave us all plants bearing seed..[gen1;25]...

who is this..who wars upon the people of the plant...via contractual deception..under the act[under the constitution to control the acts of our public servants...not police the people...indeed as per issiah...set the drug war prisoners..and their god gifted plant..free..please

luv ya jules

ps im a dutchie..one foot on the waters..the other plugging the dyke..born aussie..educated in dutch,,,smoking the flax..i..refuse to quench..you cant do worse than howhard
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 2:19:16 PM
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Julia Gillard states that injustice makes her angry. Good on yer Julie. Salmond on the Law of Tort, a famous textbook on law said the law relies on anger for its enforcement. Anger is a gift and anger brings about change for the better. The States are all bastards and the Commonwealth should get very angry with them. Unlike the Liberal Party which is simply an extension of the State Liberal Parties, the Labor Party has become a National Party. It had to intervene in Queensland to ensure that they did not stay permanently in opposition. It did, and it wrested power from the Conservatives. The Commonwealth must now extend that intervention to policing. Every time a Commonwealth citizen is murdered it should be a federal concern.

Every time a Commonwealth member faces a court, the Australian Federal Police should be there. They should be there to keep the bastards in the legal profession honest. The democrats are history. Bring on the Australian Federal Police. There is no Statute of Limitations on serious indictable offences. S 15B(1) (a) Crimes Act 1914 ( Cth) provides that a prosecution for any offence that carries a penalty of more than six months may be commenced at any time. It is now forty years since injustice was enshrined as law in New South Wales, by the Supreme Court Act 1970. Every Judge and Magistrate in New South Wales became an offender upon the proclamation of that Act.

In real legal terms, no judgment made or proclaimed without consent, has been legal in Australia since 1900. Every prisoner should be given a choice, repent and be freed with an undertaking never to offend again, or go before a jury and have your sentence reviewed. Every civil or criminal ruling made without a jury since 1970, should be open to revue, and all these stupid tribunals established to deliver so called justice should be disbanded.

Get as angry as you like Julia but don’t waste this powerful emotion. Do something about it, and have the Australian Federal Police enforce access to justice, without fear or favor
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 8:37:04 PM
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Julia Gillard, you are the Federal Minister for education in the education revolution
Julia can you explain then why a child removed by an agency of your Labor Party in NSW has failed to supply my son an education
My son entered grade 7 (High School) doing reading and spelling from grade 2 and doing his maths from grade 3
Further indignation of injustice
Care Application in wrong name
The person that signed documents as a DO of DoCS not even a delegate
The witnesses related to personel at the office that has my son's case
The Solicitor sacked by the parents turns up as the child rep
The child rep is taking his instuctions from DoCS
The list goes on and on
Julia your office has been contacted in relation to this case in the past 18 months
The Labor Party of NSW has had 9 years of representation made to it still nothing the lies have continued injustice you say
I say outright criminal
Thanks All have a great life from Dave
Posted by dwg, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 9:11:33 PM
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Here's a much simpler idea Pickle.

Fund public schools adequately, make them a human size rather than the sausage factories they are becoming with thousands of students, place them around the community within easy walking or cycling distance to students homes, require teachers to operate in a professional manner and pay them accordingly, do away with the archaic notion of teaching as a vocation and bring teachers up to 21st Century standards with similar working conditions and wages as other public servants, ensure all public schools are secular, ensure they teach students to think, as well as the usual grab-bag of economic drivers that most people misunderstand to be 'education', introduce 'the arts' as a central element rather than a fringe and frowned upon activity, encourage parents to engage with their children's schools, reduce public funding to private schools over time, insist on a far better system of training teachers than any of the universities currently offer, insist on teaching staff engaging in 'continuing education' as a lifetime activity themselves, and requiring a PG Masters qualification, at least as a general indication of a commitment to this at the HOD and above levels.

Forget the Liberal Party voucher systems, forget holding up 'the best private schools' as an example to follow.

Which private school should it be anyway- Kings in Sydney or The School of Total Health and Education in Qld?

BIS, or a Steiner school?

What if a selective state school was 'better' than the 'top' 20 private schools?

Or an 'ordinary' state school for that matter?

The starting point, what ever is done, must be with public schools, and some honesty from our politicians, such as Gillard, who has no intention whatsoever in having any sort of 'education revolution' that would be worth spilling blood in.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 9:51:48 PM
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