Antiwomen: << It's becoming increasingly obvious you just don't like men, little fella. >>

I don't like anybody who kills children, male or female. I also don't like men who blame women for their own inadequacies, and focus their unresolved anger at their failed relationships on to women in general, and bleat on incessantly about how awful mothers and feminists are.

Like I said, by all means celebrate fathers and fatherhood, but don't do so in order to push another insidious agenda. I'm a father and I resent being conscripted into campaigns that push a homophobic religious agenda, or indeed seek to reverse the gains made by women to redress gender inequality in recent decades.

Well said CJMorgan..
>"Like I said, by all means celebrate fathers and fatherhood, but don't do so in order to push another insidious agenda."

A voice of reason in an otherwise hateful campaign waged on these pages against gay men, single mothers, and women in general.

Happy fathers day to all those fathers out there who rise above the hatefulness expressed here and just get on with being wonderful fathers and wonderful men in general- like my husband and father!

In our extended family we rejoice in the homely, commercial humbug-free nature of Father's Day. It is very different to Mother's Day and that reflects I think essential differences between men and women and their expectations. No presents, sugar-coated cards, chocolates and bouquets from us for the menfolk, just the honest thanks, a good meal and the informal get-together with children everwhere. Although the proudly given handmade gifts from Kindy and Pre-School are always a delight. Men and fathers don't need fuss to show how much we care, the hug or pat on the shoulder is enough.

A tradition we have is red and white roses on the tables for our mid-afternoon bbq or ploughman's lunch (always depends on how hot the season is): red rose buds for the fathers who are alive and white to remember for those who are departed.

I found this message and poem provided by John Sampson, New York State Senator quite moving, expressing as it does recognition for fathers and all men who are helpers, mentors and friends of youth and support and guide them through life. This is for all of you:

http://www.nysenate.gov/report/happy-fathers-day

Australia should develop its own traditions for Father's Day. The marketers' dream of a commercialised Fathers' Day (ties, chocolates and glitz) is inappropriate and objectionable to men. Fatherhood can only be celebrated on an individual basis and by the family. Marketing (similar to Mother's Day) just makes men look foolish and diminishes the sacrifice and quiet achievement they are renouned for.

Oops, that should be 'renowned'. Enjoy yourselves and thanks.

Cornflower

<< Australia should develop its own traditions for Father's Day. The marketers' dream of a commercialised Fathers' Day (ties, chocolates and glitz) is inappropriate and objectionable to men. Fatherhood can only be celebrated on an individual basis and by the family. >>

And you place a link to a piece of saccharine USA pap? You are a constant puzzle, Cornflower.

Anyway

Happy Father's Day to:

My brother-in-law - I love my niece and nephew, they are a credit to both their parents.

The father of my best friend's first baby (born last Monday 31st August), I know you are going to be a fantastic dad as you continue to be with the children from your former marriage.

I hope everyone makes a big fuss over you - you all deserve it.

CJ Morgan and suzeonline,

It never ceases to amaze me that people who would identify as following an 'inclusive' agenda use words like "insidious" and "hateful" to describe people who hold different opinions to themselves. As with many on the left, it seems your 'tolerance' only extends as far as those who agree with you.

CJ Morgan you are particularly worrying. You call people who push a model of the family which has existed for over 2000 years and has formed the foundation of our civilisation 'insidious'. What is wrong with you? I'm not even Christian and have no problem with Gay marriage but at least I'm tolerant enough to accept differing views.

Happy Father's day to all the fathers out there - even the intolerant ones.