Andrew M Potts

Just a further comment on your post. When my sons were in primary school, the teacher brought her gay brother into school to talk to the kids about life as a homosexual (it was an alternative school). At question time, when he was asked what was the worst thing about being gay, his answer was the liklihood of never having children.

Not the discrimination suffered, or the reaction from parents and community or the pervasive risk of assault. It was the greatly reduced opportunity to have children. It certainly made my sons think - and me too when they later told me about it.

Jason you ask

'Does anyone know the *official* violence levels proven in gay relationships/families?'

I think you can be sure that just like the disease rate among homosexuals is kept secret so would the levels of violence and length of relationships be kept silent. Speak to any honest doctor and you might get some truth. Any honest study would be immediately labeled homophobic especially by our national broadcasters.

Jason Thompson

'Contemporary Aussie research and crime stats tell that women are equally *physically* violent against males/children, and indeed in against other women in public places'

This myth has come up many times on OLO. The 'research' you refer to is based on a deeply flawed methodology called Conflict Tactics Scale which has been heavily peddled by conservative, anti-feminism think-tanks to promote a false 'hidden epidemic' of violence by women against men.

I've outlined the flaws in this methodology several times on OLO. So I won't go into them again here. However, anyone interested in reading further, this is one of the best links available:
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/faq-but-doesnt-evidence-show-that-women-are-just-as-likely-to-batter-their-partners-as-men/

SJF

I notice you refer to conflict tactic scales and not to published crime figures or official stats on SUBSTANTIATED physical violence by mothers and fathers. Here is the substantiated figures for violence against children by mothers and fathers showing that mothers are indeed more physically violent: http://www.mensrights.com.au/dads_not_the_demons.pdf

Even though the above poster provided the child abuse data it seems you forgot to mention them in your rush to dismiss female violence. Children need you to face up to the reality of who is bashing them.

SJF. The figures Jason Thomson mentions are official government figures, the link you posted is a feminist blog, of course a feminist blog is going to agree with what you say. The fact is that these ARE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT FIGURES,don't insult the intelligence of other posters like Mr Thomson, the self interest between your views and the feminist blog you have posted a link to is obvious to anyone with even half a brain. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all of the time. My daughter,who i brought up myself after rescuing her from an abusive and neglecting mother, is at university doing an honours degree in psychology, she has studied RESEARCH METHODOLOGY, she has seen first hand the feminist influence in her own university[ it's the same in most universities]and has seen how they manipulate figures to suit their own ends. She has also experienced first hand what it is like to be forced to live with a violent, abusive and neglecting mother, she also saw in her younger days the abuse i had to put up with. She has also had first hand experience of how little value our biased family law system places on a fathers love, in fact she is considering doing her PHD on the subject. Hah how i would love to be a fly on the wall if she and yourself ever got into a debate on the subject.

SJF, is a femanazi and therefore, incapable of honesty, even some of the more moderate ones, who have been softening their rhetoric lately, are incapable of getting past the indoctrination, inflicted on them, for 40 years now, and still go along with the stats their sistas rig.

BTW, from my extensive contacts in the gay and lesbian communities, i can tell you anecdotally, that gay relationships, are reasonably normal, as far as DV goes, but lesbian relationships, are extremely violent and always covered up, by lesbians, in the police forces, legal aid, etc, the victims are always pressured into not making statements or withdrawing them.

BTW, Anybody watch 60 minutes last night? When will these femanazis, acknowledge the steady increase in gay, lesbian, and transgender lifestyle over the last 40 years? Any child, growing up, post femanazism, has been brainwashed since birth, into thinking, there is something intrinsically wrong, with being male. Is it any wonder, some of them, got confused, sexually?