CJ,

'the kind of pomo flummery that gives humanities academics a bad name.'

Haha. Yes it does! And there's many, many an example.

pelican,

Maybe you can explain it to SJF.

robert,

I'm glad you stuck to your guns. SJF will never give you the approval you seek, but there are nice birds like pelican. It sticks in my throat, but Fractelle has shown more common sense here than I knew she was capable of.

which brings me to

formersnag,

Oh, I've got such an arsenal ready to explode, there's so much material to work with. But in the end, ah, it would just be too easy. I'd feel bad. Let's just enjoy the show. Keep up the great work!

Oh, WOW! Gimme a break. Gimme a Kleenex. Make that 2 Kleenexes.

I just cannot get over the unbelievable outpouring of hurt masculine feelings, wronged masculine integrity and outraged masculine pride over this female author's audacity to make a negative emotional generalisation about men.

How dare she! My goodness. They must have been able to hear the collective chorus of masculine bottom lips trembling as far away as Indonesia.

To requote the author: 'Often, men get angry. They don’t like to be put down. There is no forgiving or collaboration to avert a fist-fight or hissy fit ...'

Well, now. A quick scan of most of the above posts written by men in response to this uppity woman's negative stereotyping of them shows that:

1. Men get angry.
2. Men don't like to be put down.
3. Men don't forgive or collaborate.
4. Men have hissy fits.

The only thing missing was the fist fight. How about keyboards at dawn, behind the cathedral?

Look on the bright side, guys. Women get this negative stereotyping all their lives. Consider yourself lucky that it happens so seldom in your lives that you've never learned to view it as 'normal'.

SJF

You forgot to add:

5. Men are condescending.

Houllie: << but Fractelle has shown more common sense here than I knew she was capable of. >>

Oh My Gawd, if women exhibit any of the 5 above behaviours, the entire universe is threatened by feminazis.

"When a man gives his opinion he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion she's a bitch."
Bette Davis

Pelican,2, getting better, but you still, "somehow", (take note fractelle), managed to twist Aunty Nellie's life into a mention of stereotyping, instead of an admission that her life, along with those of millions of other women, from her generation disproves some of the foundations that feminazism stands on.

Houellebecq, 3, clever work, some of it was even honest, but we still managed to avoid talking about Auntie Nellie, didn't we. BTW her 2 brothers were not sent to university, They, had to go jackarooing, in the school of "hard knocks/work", instead of the life of privilege that their sister, enjoyed. Also no mention of why she was deprived, of the opportunity to engage in the baby boom, and don't try some sarcasm, about her being "left on the shelf" because she was ugly or fat. I never met my Aunty Nellie until she had retired and moved to Brisbane, but she was quite attractive in her day. Perhaps you would like to collaborate with me on a scholarly, academic book/phd thesis on how, her existence, destroys, feminism?

BTW, What about all the other stuff, you had to say?

1, We are not having a verbal conversation in a pub/cafe, If you try to ignore what any of us "evil patriarchy denier's" are writing on the Internet for all the world to see, then your silence is approval?

2, If you try sarcasm, with 1 line quoted out of context and just more ignoring of the facts, then everybody will see that as well.

"Pelican,2, getting better,..."

Formersnag I didn't realise this was going on my report card.

I don't post on OLO for your benefit or to seek your approval, like everyone else I am just stating an opinion. I don't really give a toss about your Auntie Nellie.

Houlley
I don' think SJF needs me to explain anything, she is more than capable of forming her own conclusions.

Wedge politics doesn't really work unless you have a dumb audience.

R0bert

I've only just realised I forgot to address your response to my ‘silent treatment’ comment …

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. Perhaps it was my guilty conscience, as my posts to you had been getting progressively grumpy.

Please, R0bert, can’t you lighten up a bit? NO feminist can - or will - ever behave with the requisite amounts of integrity, consistency and decorum you seem to expect from them – even the infinitely patient Fraccy and pelican.

Fractelle

"When a man gives his opinion he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion she's a bitch." Bette Davis’

And when a bitch gives her opinion, she couldn’t care less what anyone thinks of her.

Pelican

Excellent comebacks - especially to Hooley.