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Racist attacks raise fears for Indigenous teens : Comments
By Stephen Hagan, published 5/8/2009An Indigenous teenager becomes another statistic of a race-based assault.
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A truly dreadful incident. But Stephen attacks by white gangs on non-whites, Aboriginal gangs on whites and Islanders, Islander gangs on whites and Aboriginals are unfortunately common in South East Qld and I suspect elsewhere. All one can do is to be vigilant.
Posted by blairbar, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 12:08:23 PM
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Very sad news, but it's just another reason why the Christian church needs to become more involved in the public sphere. If all ethnic groups were united by a strong belief in Christ, these attacks would disappear. Fourty years of government programs aimed at increasing tolerance, equality and diversity have failed - it's now time to look for other ways to unite the Australian community, and that's obviously going to be through one common belief system. God Bless.
Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 2:14:32 PM
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That is a very sad story. Nearly as sad as when up to 20 Aborigines surrounded and beat to death a white man with his cricket bat last year in Western Australia. He was enjoying a game of cricket with his family when the group of Aborigines decided to start stealing their drinks. The family asked them to stop but they would not. Eventually more Aboriginals turned up and started beating the family and ended up killing the father. Unfortunately because of our politically correct media this went mostly unreported or was simply reported as a group of youths, never mentioning that they were all Aboriginals. Aborigines seem to think they have a right to beat up other people. My wife was recently assaulted by a group of Abriginals in the supermarket and then they ended up stealing her purse while others were distracting her. This was in suburban Adelaide. If people want to find out more about the story above you could google it, it occurred in Geraldton on Christmas day 2007 and the mans name was Rowe. Just imagine the outcry in the media if the colour of the the two groups involved had been reversed.
Posted by ozzie, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 5:45:21 PM
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Unfortunately Stephen the comments already here echo my thoughts on the subject.
I wish Woonun a speedy recovery and deplore the horrific act of violence done upon him. It is something that no-one should have to experience and I wish that neither your children or mine will even have to deal with this type of thing. Unfortunately for our society it is far from an isolated incident and is noteworthy more for the racial origins of victim and perpetrator than anything else. In my experience the abuse is more often perpetrated by Aboriginals against whites. My wife remembers getting picked on by local Aboriginal girls as a child. I also remember being involved in one unprovoked incident as a kid. Stephen, I applaud the standards you have set for your family and look forward to the day when all of our children - black and white - will be raised in homes where they are loved, cherished, taught and learn how to become responsible and well adjusted adults. Until that day all parents simply try to do the best they can with the ones that have been entrusted to them and hope that their loved ones will be safe. Posted by J S Mill, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 5:57:39 PM
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Truthnow78.. you must be kidding? In Toowoomba, the combined Pentecostal/Charismatic cults share a 'healing room' within which their 'pastors' do their voodoo thang. Please labour your way through the scary gibberish in the PDF file below to the story from September 2008 titled 'the preacher who was too tired to preach'.. then tell me how this demonstrates Christ's lurv for the true owners of this big island..
http://www.australiansecularlobby.com/ToowoombaPentecostalHealingRoom.pdf If I were you T78.. I'd go out first thing tomorrow and convert to The Dreaming.. that's real spirituality. Posted by DeepNortherner, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 5:57:48 PM
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Violent white supremacists gangs are deplorable and should be dealt with harshly by our law. I hope and pray that Woonun recovers fully. Aboriginal gangs in Western Australia are common and extremely violent as has already been stated by the above posters. I have seen the affects first hand many times over. Most involved in these gangs have not got loving responsible parents like you and your wife seem to be Stephen. Often the gang members are very young and have no contact with dad who is in prison or drunk. NO easy answers.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 6:31:31 PM
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So much potential for this thread to get really nasty.
Whilst I've often not liked Stephen's focus on race nothing in this article left me with the impression that Stephen was sugesting that indigenous people were immune to violent gang behaviour. He talked about a situation which was close to his family which brings home the personal harm from what might otherwise be a minor news item. Yes there is plenty of scope for swapping stories, perhaps someone can respond with a the details of an indiginous person beaten to death not that long ago near Brisbane. Or we can accept that those who feel on the outer or for some reason who lack hope in their lives can do some really vile things. We could spend our time discussing ways of being safer from gangs. We could discuss some of the things which give violent gangs their appeal and what if anything society can do about it. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 7:11:14 PM
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Excellent article Stephen ...thank you for highlighting the racism our people endure. I wish young Woonun a speedy recovery ...and i hope the law puts these racists in jail where they belong.
Comparatives are useless ...they justify nothing ...all violence is wrong and every incident is different. Keep it real. All people black or white should be safe to walk our streets ...this type of incident is unacceptable to all of us as humans. Lock them up and throw away the key. Truthnow78 ...lets all assimilate to christ ...really? Get your head out of the sand. Some of us dont want to be christians! Posted by koori01, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 7:51:09 PM
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I can't see any worth in pointing a finger at 'racist' violence. It's all gang violence, the target/s chosen by a particular gang could be any group, it is a lottery depending on such factors as who is in the news, in close proximity or whatever. Simply by giving any identifiable group publicity you could make them a target at least for a time.
It works the other way too, people tend identify and focus on the existence of ethnic gangs which is equally unhelpful. Membership of a gang can appeal to a member of any cultural group, it is why he joins and what the gang does that are of concern. Police I have spoken with are frustrated that when they arrest offenders, the courts go light on them and give them too many chances because of family problems and lack of proper example in their environment. Police also say that gang recruits are expected to commit crimes and get arrested to earn their place in the gang. Posted by Cornflower, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 10:31:29 PM
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I totally disagree with this attitude expressed by Cornflower that we should not point out racist violence and that we should not identify ethnic gangs. It is this view that tries to cover up the truth. It tries to express that no particular ethnic groups are responsible, everyone is equally resonsible. That's absolute leftist crap. Just today i saw the Somali community leaders saying that the rest of their community should not be looked upon badly because of the recent developments. Why should't they. I'm sure if some members in their community had made some remarkable achievement they would be claiming praise. Maybe they should be asking questions in their own communities about why this is happening. Asking their members to improve. Explaining to their own members that they are giving their community are bad name. Many ethnic groups ARE more involved in crime, that's the truth. In the USA for instance blacks are 500% more likely to commit murder, yes 500%, a staggering fact but virtually never stated. people need to understand that not all ethnic groups are equal. If you want Australia to be a society like Italy then bring italians here, if you want Australia to be like Germany then bring germans here, if like Somalia then bring them here, etc etc. Look at the type of societies around the world, they are not equal. Most people can't accept this, we have to accept this leftist crap they are all equal. Yes every ethnic group is good, and every ethnic group believes in peace and harmony and 99% of all ethnic groups are law abidding, etc etc, B...crap. Learn the truth.
Posted by ozzie, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 11:48:07 PM
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Hi ozzie, can you please post a link to the story where a man was beaten to death with his own cricket bat by 20 people. If you don't have a link readily available, could you please tell me exactly where and exactly when it happened, so I can find the details. Thank you ozzie.
Posted by MaryE, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 11:57:41 PM
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Hello Mary,
I think I have given enough info in the first post. Just google Rowe and Geraldton and it will come up easy enough. Sure enough many of the reports barely mention that the group is aboriginal. Can you imagine what would have happened if 20 white people bashed an aboriginal to death. It would have made the news worldwide. This is just how how the media refuses to report all the violence perpetrated by these aborigines. Or should I say as Mr Hagan would say these Black Supremacists. Posted by ozzie, Thursday, 6 August 2009 9:46:33 PM
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Stephen,
I just hope that your sons mate fully recovers, but I think you are wrong if you believe aboriginals are at more risk than others. There are plenty of examples of people getting bashed by cowardly groups. Recently a Dr. Cao, a uni lecturer, was bashed to death by a gang with no apparent motive. Only a few days ago, 3 youths were stabbed by a gang of 15 at Parramatta. Media reports of Indian students being targets of bashings and robbery in Melboure and Sydney. Almost daily there are reports of such criminal activities. I recall a few years ago, a little Asian kid of about 10 was bashed to death in Sydney for riding his bike down the wrong street. Telopia Street i think it was. Unfortunately, increased violence seems to be the price we pay for, what? A larger population or a multicultural community? Family and community breakdown? We are left wondering as to the cause of this and where our society is heading. Whatever the cause, Australia is not the safe place it used to be. Posted by Banjo, Friday, 7 August 2009 9:29:12 AM
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Ozzie, I agree with you 100%. It's time we understood that not all cultures and civilisations are equal, that some are, to put it bluntly, inferior to ours. Too many people think it is our duty as a society to give way to any norm or custom brought to our shores by immigrants, whether legal or not, whether morally/socially/culturally acceptable or not.
We need to wake up. Multiculturalism equals separatism. "Multiculturalism" has worked to this point in spite of itself - that is, most immigrants have realised, despite the best efforts of the multicultural elite to tell them otherwise, that a society only works when there is something holding it together. That something is Australian culture, and the general success of our immigration program is due to most (not all, but most) immigrants voluntarily subscribing to our culture. And don't try and tell me we have no culture - that is Leftist garbage. The first step in replacing someone's culture is to convince them they have no culture. I refuse to accept that form of brainwashing. Unfortunately, that compact is breaking down. We have not created a cultural confidence among minorities, but a cultural chauvinism. If we continue to encourage people to believe all their beliefs are equal no matter what, then we lose common ground. Groups will relate to each other, not on common terms, but on their own terms. And that is how we splinter into tribalism. Australian law, Australian culture, Australian values - these must take precedence EVERY time. Posted by benny tea, Friday, 7 August 2009 9:33:07 AM
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Australia & our allies fought a world war to defeat the nazis. Alot of good Australian people died in this undertaking, including aboriginals. These criminals out on our streets who believe they represent the nazi ideal should be treated as the terrorists they are when caught & locked away for a long time. And for those trying to justify the criminal behaviour set upon this young person should be monitored more closely. You are un-Australian & should go to some other country where the nazi ideal is more welcomed by the majority of citizens. Fools, theres no justfication for this violent criminal act. Your only revealing your own racist attitudes & ignorance by trying to justify a violent crime when it suits.
Posted by profiler, Friday, 7 August 2009 10:38:02 AM
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Profiler, I hope you are not including me in those people you think are justifying the attack. I don't believe anywhere I have stated that opinion. What I have tried to state is that I do believe Aborigines and some other ethnic groups cause far more violence than other groups and it is hypocritical to point out just one side of the violence as this article does. We are always hearing about how badly done by the Aborigines are, but whenever they do something bad the media trys to cover it up or blame someone else. I would like the whole situation to be transparent with stats on each ethnic group, but the government and the ethnic affairs departments will not allow this to happen. I firmly believe most of the increasing violence on our streets is due to immigrants ( or children of migrants). If you follow the stories enough and do a bit of digging you will find this to be true in MOST cases.
Posted by ozzie, Friday, 7 August 2009 8:51:22 PM
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Profiler, I find it ironic that you decry Nazi ideals while calling for their proponents to be monitored closely. Perhaps we should keep files on them too, tap their phones and drag them into the police station for random interrogations just to let them know we're on top of them.
Wait, I think Belgium already does this. Posted by benny tea, Friday, 14 August 2009 11:21:01 AM
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