thoroughly dishonest. mander should stop serving up straw men, and should address the real issues in wilson's piece.

Agreed, bushbasher.

I see that Mander's the current CEO of Scripture Union Queensland. Concerning the school chaplaincy program in Queensland State Schools, his predecessor Duncan Brown wrote:

<< School chaplaincy is a feeder ministry - it is a way of directly targeting potential Christians and bring them to God and into the church environment. >>

http://www.thefourthr.info/feds.html

The only place that religion should have in a public school is by way of inclusion in a social studies course that includes comoarative religion, i.e. schoolkids should be taught about religion, rather than preached to. Chaplains should be replaced by properly qualified secular counsellors who can provide support and mentoring without the pernicious influence of religious proselytising.

If religious parents want their kids indoctrinated in their beliefs, they should do it themselves, send them to Sunday school or whatever, or enrol them in any of the numerous religious private schools.

Yes but does what is taught as religion, especially the kind of essentially dim-witted religiosity that the SU promotes, have anything to do with Truth or Reality. Remembering too that the SU essentially promotes the false idea that only Christianity is true and that ALL other religions are the work of "satan".

For amusement I used to occasionally visit the now defunct SU bookshop in Flinders Arcade in Melbourne.It has gotten much worse now that it a Word bookstore.

http://www.adidam.org/teaching/aletheon/truth-religion.aspx

I wonder if Tim would be happy if all religions had the same access to these schools as his mod have got.

I agree with this article absolutely.

In fact, I'm looking forward to being able to teach school children the joyous truth of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Touch a child with His Noodly Appendage, and you touch the man!

It's a form of child abuse to NOT teach children about Christianity in State schools. Teaching our children a concept of God is all that separates us from the Nazi's.