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Withhold fake documentary from screening : Comments

By Kamal Fadel, published 10/7/2009

In the so-called documentary 'Stolen' truth has only a walk on part at best

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I think it's quite obvious that Andi is just another name for Wal who is probably one of the filmmakers or their family members such as JanF.

An ex-slave, Spanish speaking, Jamaican, born in the UK who happened to watch Stolen and love it!

This shows how desperate the Stolen apologists have become.
Posted by Fay, Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:42:55 PM
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It seems to me that Fay rather is desperate to prove that Stolen has no supporters; just can't stand any indication that they do. From where I see it, it looks more like the person or persons posting repetitive propaganda and sly attacks on behalf of the Polisario are the real "trolls".

While I know myself who's being honest, for the wider public it will only be a matter of time before the truth comes out on that one.

No matter how cruel and nasty the Polisario trolls are towards the film makers and their supporters, this ugly behaviour just does their cause further harm. I have no problem with that.
Posted by Wal, Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:47:12 PM
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Report on flaws in Stolen handed to Minister Garrett

The Federal Government will today be presented with a damning critique of the Australian film Stolen and asked to disassociate itself from the film.

The critique uncovers serious misleading and deceptive practice on the part of the film makers and, on this basis alone, the Australia Western Sahara Association said, the Commonwealth crediting should be removed before its MIFF screening tonight.

Lyn Allison, President of AWSA said “The credibility given by the Commonwealth crest to the false claims of widespread slavery in the Saharawi camps should be of great embarrassment to the Minister and Screen Australia.

“The film was funded as a documentary but turned out to be a fiction. Now the real story behind its production needs to be told.”

The critique, collated by AWSA, documents untruths and basic errors identified by independent translators, witnesses and individuals used in the film. It cites “…. questionable methods and unethical practices from pre- to post-production.”

The full critique is at: http://awsa.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/critique_finalversion1.pdf

“Australia's standing as a trusted producer of documentary work is challenged by Stolen carrying the Government's seal of approval and its $300,000 of support.”

The critique details statement retractions, payments for false statements, a lack of release forms and standard interview permission documentation, manipulation of subjects, contradictory translations, fictitious scenes and questionable funding arrangements.

“AWSA offers this analysis of Stolen in defence of the dignity of the Saharawi people.”

“Unfortunately, Stolen does not help Australians understand or care about the plight of the Saharawis or their legitimate struggle for self-determination,” said Ms Allison.

For comment: Lyn Allison: 0407 691 512
For background: http://www.awsa.org.a
Posted by Fay, Saturday, 1 August 2009 10:47:59 PM
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I'm surprised that Lyn Allison would put her name to such a "pastiche of misinformation".
Posted by Wal, Saturday, 1 August 2009 11:02:03 PM
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Who in the world believes in politicians?
Posted by Andi, Monday, 3 August 2009 12:20:58 AM
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From Unleashed:

Slavery is in the mind, slavery of your behind.
It does not matter if this does not rhyme
I'm only writing it to pass the time.
Did the film makers commit a crime, they're lying and misleading creates suspicion
Were they on a mission?
For the slave it is not submission, coz they were paid a commission.
For the public it is momentary indecision
The truth will reveal itself in time, and reveal itself with great precision.
The disjunction created between arab and black
Is reminiscent of the crack attack
By the evangelical american christian pack
On a mission that is really wacked
Do not attempt to hack and translate
Let the experts do it and you'll be right mate
The film makers do only desecrate
The integrity of film making and then they berate
Their slaves, who they underestimate and bait
And now the film makers create slaves in turn
Slaves of themselves to money and fame, for which they yearn
Posted by Fay, Monday, 3 August 2009 12:47:10 PM
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