Shaz,
what on earth are you rabbiting on about? What has various toxic gases around Bendigo got to do with global warming, why does fish migration disprove the basic physics behind Co2, and what do the poles have to do with the role of co2?

Can you please explain how these questions relate to each other and what your basic problem with global warming is? I'm not a scientist, but at least can comprehend the 'executive summaries' of science reports and I have not even met sceptics that raise the questions you're raising.

In the meantime Australian climatologist David Karoly reviews "Heaven and Earth" and basically says IF libraries have to buy the thing (and he recommends that they don't) they should put it under the Sci-Fi section next to Michael Krichton's "State of Fear". The only difference, there are less scientific error's in "State of Fear". I laughed out loud when I heard Karoly put it that way.

Please Shaz, download this podcast before you go BELIEVING Plimer's rubbish. It's utter, utter rubbish, and the guy is on the board of a mining company. Gee, I wonder why he's biased?

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2009/2593166.htm

Plimer made money selling his "Creationist Debunking" book, and now wants to make money "debunking" climate. If he had any REAL science to contribute he'd do it in the peer review process! But of course, he can't BECAUSE OF THE CONSPIRACY!

(Start playing X-Files theme)

Scully: They are peer reviewed scientists!

Mulder: Scully, they're all in it together, paid by govcorp to suppress the truth about aliens by creating a massive "State of Fear". It's diversion from the truth!

Scully: But dozens of institutes around the world have studied this independently. It's not like they ran ONE computer model and then all agreed to be bound by it. These are sceptical scientists, but they all independently agree!

Mulder: That's because the Aliens probed them Scully. You know what THAT means! How can you do good science with a probe stuck you know where!?

Eclipse Now

Most excellent post.

Loved the Scully/Mulder reference.

Cheers

Shaz

If you want to know where all the “pollutants” went to after the big bang, go ring up an astrophysicist.

Seemingly you believe the earth formed with the big bang? With my limited knowledge on this topic, I believe most of the planets did not form until 4.5 million years ago.

You don’t really believe that the universe, which formed 12-14 billion years ago, stored up all the big bang pollutants and dumped the lot on Planet Earth, do you? Planet Earth is not the only planet in the galaxy though as far as scientists can tell, it's the only planet which can sustain life – well for the timebeing!

Why you’ve raised the topic of the big bang is beyond my comprehension and what has the radon in Bendigo to do with that? Radon gas is seeping through the soil all over the planet. Watch out for those granite benchtops – ya hear? And I’d be concerned about radon’s stable progeny, lead if I were you – it doesn’t decay and plays havoc on the human brain!

So you’ve blown fifty bucks on Plimer’s book – written for the gullible and the greedy in our society. I have a paper of his: “The Cold Facts about Global Warming” published in 2006 where he said:

“The main gases emitted from volcanoes were and still are greenhouse gases H2O, CO2, and CH4 mixed with other minor gases.”

Therefore your climate guru Plimer is completely ignorant about the massive amounts of sulphur dioxide (SO2), which emits during volcanic eruptions. SO2 is responsible for acid rain and masks the impacts of global warming. Industry constantly creates acid rains, emitting sulphur particulates also from its emissions of SO2 from smelting nickel etc:

http://volcanoes.suite101.com/article.cfm/volcanoes_natural_polluters

Quiz: Did you know that scientists estimate that humans emit 150 times more CO2 than volcanoes?

"Quiz: Did you know that scientists estimate that humans emit 150 times more CO2 than volcanoes?"

But Protogoras, that's only because the aliens have PLUGGED the volcanoes with the PROBES, masking the TRUE effects of Volcanoes. They're all in it together, the climate scientists, the volcanoes, the aliens and the people who spiked my special green little cigarette thingys with radon the other day. Why, the other night there I was, marvelling at how GREEN my ciggies looked, and then I noticed that the smoke was coming off all the colours of the rainbow. And then the rainbow shifted and went all the colours of blue, or is that shades of blue? I don't know... must be global warming... oh, that's right, I don't believe in global warming except when I get the munchies. Hmmm, I could go a kebab about now... like REALLY go a kebab. Or a roast chicken. Oh-Oh, I think the blue has killed me. I'm dead. Please come quickly and save me because I'm dead because of the blue. Wow, did you know you can be really hungry when you're dead?

I'm BACK!

Today President Oboma is in L'Aquila Italy, one of the most breathtakingly beautiful spots on earth. Why? He is there to discuss the climate crisis called Climate Change. The forecast is for a partly sunny day and a full 3 degrees C. below normal, 23 years after the CO2 theory said this wouldn’t happen. Do you think as he is gazing out the pristeen hills of the L’Aquila countryside from up above on a sunlit yet cool patio bar that he will stop and reevaluate this urgency on something that is clearly as political as the WMD scam only a million times larger. A false crisis where everyone gains in power. But a 23 year old theory is unsustainable. There will be a backlash as the climate crisis fails to arrive for another two and a half decades.
Can believers and deniers at least both agree that resulting cooling disproves predicted warming? How is that not fair?
Clearly now, catalytic converter gas and plant food are not what we demonized them for almost a quarter of a century ago so lets call the emergency off and just preserve our surroundings instead of trying to save and rescue them from a non existent crisis of climate.
As George Carlin said:“There is nothing wrong with the planet, it’s the people that are wacked. You know, people, human monkeys or what amounts to moss on a boulder thinking “IT’S” in charge now, not the boulder, not the creator and not good old Mother Nature is in charge anymore. Move over bitch. We’s is gonna tax ya back to what ya used to be, like the inside of an indoor shopping mall: CONTROLLED?”
Ok maybe he didn’t say the last part.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warming
The world's largest open forum on global warming debate.

Meme Pity for all of us.
We did not miss you - back to your spouting rubbish again.