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Heaven, Earth and science fiction : Comments

By Mike Pope, published 11/6/2009

To avoid following the polar bear to extinction, 'homo sapiens' would do well to reject the science fiction espoused by Professor Ian Plimer.

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The best bit about the DENIERS is that we can follow the money back to the tainted source of all corruption, ExxonMobile. Work for them do you MeMeMine?

ABC news follows the money trail.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/03/2615551.htm?section=justin

The world's biggest oil company, ExxonMobil, has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to groups that continue to question the cause and effects of global warming.

The Grantham Research Institute at the London School of Economics (LSE) claims ExxonMobil has reneged on a promise to end financial support to the groups.

It also claims a conference of climate change sceptics in Washington, recently attended by Australian Family First Senator Stephen Fielding, was sponsored by one of the groups that received funding from the oil giant.

A policy director at the LSE, Bob Ward, first wrote to ExxonMobil in 2006, concerned about the financial support the company provided to climate change sceptics.

Last year the world's biggest oil company told the LSE's climate change institute it would discontinue funding several public policy groups whose position on climate change could "divert attention from the important discussion on how the world will secure the energy required for economic growth in an environmentally responsible manner".

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"Now the reason I single them out is that they have been sponsors of a recent conference of so-called sceptics which took place in Washington, and that is mostly a gathering of lobbyists and other people who reject the evidence on climate change.

"Of course it was also the conference which Senator Fielding recently attended.
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Mr Ward says those organisations are not informing the public about climate change.

"They are trying to mislead people and frankly we have seen these sorts of tactics before, for instance in the case of the tobacco industry, who for many, many years, funded campaigns and misinformation about the adverse effects of their products," he said.

"This seems to be a similar situation in which a commercial company is funding misinformation campaigns because there is abundant evidence that their products are having an adverse effect."
Posted by Eclipse Now, Thursday, 9 July 2009 8:45:54 PM
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Perhaps meme has read
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/07/06/2617756.htm
or
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/09/nasa_icesat_study_ice_cap_thinned_dramatically/

And with a bit of luck has buried his head in the tar sands that he wants to pollute the earth with or does he thing he knows better than these experts?
Posted by PeterA, Friday, 10 July 2009 8:41:27 AM
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Eclipse Now, how much money are warming hysterics getting from governments and green lobby groups? A little more than a few hundred k I'll bet.

And would you support our government giving money to scientists who doubt AGW so that they could prove their cases? I didn't think so.

Hypocrite.
Posted by Mattofact, Friday, 10 July 2009 3:54:46 PM
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Mattofact, *climate institutes* all over the globe are being paid by *independent governments* and universities to investigate this phenomena. Please try to distinguish between greenie activist think tanks that might be a bit outside the norm, and the peer reviewed independent scientists. You’d have us believe that dozens and dozens of climate institutes paid by different governments and universities around the globe all got together and said, “Lets LIE to the public about this so we can keep the gravy train going”. And somehow, no independent climate think tank makes history publishing THE definitive peer reviewed paper that stands scientific scrutiny and makes the name of that institute forever.

Instead we see all the REAL scientists agreeing, and only Exxon’s scientists disagreeing. Hmmmm?

It must be confusing living in your world where spectrometry helps us develop fiber-optic cables, microwave ovens, the internet... gosh, the modern world, but suddenly doesn’t work for measuring Co2?

It must also be scary to live your world, where conspiracies of this size seem everyday occurrences. A survival guide: when the aliens probe “you know where” I hear Anusol is good for relieving the symptoms afterwards.
Posted by Eclipse Now, Friday, 10 July 2009 4:27:42 PM
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If you fear mongers are not willing to have the stones to march with a THE END IS NEAR sign, then at least love your planet and your fellow humans on our poor helpless 5 billion year old dead planet and debate all you like at:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warming
the world's largest open forum on globull warm-mongering.
Posted by mememine69, Friday, 10 July 2009 8:59:57 PM
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The paid consultants in lab coats say the task of measuring and understanding the extraordinarily complex climate systems has made the science “clear” on the theory of global warming and it’s not what to believe but rather whom to believe. We deniers of the 23 year old theory say if the science is so clear, we all then possess the ability to interpret the facts and theories ourselves.
Here are the denier’s observed facts:
-A policy of precaution is not science, its superstition.
-Just shy of a quarter of a century of failed IPCC predictions certainly disproves the theory.
-La Nina is stronger than all of Global Warming’s magical powers.
-Melting ice does not prove CO2 is at fault?
-Our cooling clear blue sky disproves the theory.
-10 years of NOAA cooling disproves the theory.
-Resulting cooling disproves predicted warming.
Posted by mememine69, Monday, 13 July 2009 12:45:46 AM
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