*I think this girl was set up by these football players even to the point of taking her home so that it would look less like rape if a complaint was made. They all knew damm well that it would be her word against 11 of them. *

I think that you are wrong Sharkfin, based on the evidence that we
have. She never slept with 11 players, seemingly half a dozen.
We know that she rejected one bloke, for apparently being too
ugly. This has all been done to death on a previous thread.
Do rape victims get to choose who is ugly and who is not ugly?

Yeah, perhaps Johns did apologise for other players barging into
the room, but from my memory, when travelling with a bunch of
blokes as a teenager, we commonly barged into each others rooms,
as we were all friends. That would be common behaviour of a young
group of blokes.

We don't know what was said, for Clare to go into the room with the
two guys, but the night before, she seemingly went into a toilet with
two guys, for a bit of sex.

As it happens, Clare has seemingly been receiving weekly financial
compensation for her "stress", for the last many years. Sounds as
long as she keeps "suffering" they will keep paying.

Is she just screwing the system for money? Maybe, maybe not.

sharkfin:"Whilst one girl keeps him busy the other lets the group of homosexual men into the room and they rape him."

LOL Homosexual anal rape is not the same as heterosexual group sex. I'm glad we got that cleared up for you, it'll save you no end of trouble later in life.

Why are you Wowsers so obsessed with anal rape?

Let's look at your hypothetical another way: a homosexual man goes home with another gay man and they have sex, during or after which a group of homosexual men known to both of them turns up and they all do some eccies and decide to have anal sex. No "rape", just a bloke with a sore bum in the morning, who probably won't go to the police 5 days later claiming to have been raped.

sharkfin:"she obviously has strong feelings of a wrong being done to her."

Read Leslie Cannold's piece on "regret". It's referenced close to the start of this thread and I recommend it to you.

benk:"All people like Danielle had to do was to be more ethical than the footballers and acknowledge that Claire has her faults too and discussion of this issue would focus on the footballers. They failed."

Absolutely correct. The grrrls of the media weren't interested in the facts, just the chance for a witchhunt and a free swing at footballers, who represent the absolute antithesis of the feminist androgynous ideal. As I said earlier, some people see "feminism" as more important than "professionalism" and it shows...

I'm sincerely curious.
How many of the men on this thread who condone, or at least do not condemn this behaviour, would actually indulge in this sort of behaviour?
Is it a case of 'gang bangs are all right for footy players, but I personally wouldn't indulge'; or is it "yeah, gang bangs are great, do it every chance I get"? Assuming the sex is consensual in both cases, of course.

Grim

So you put out the decoys in the hope of some incoming geese to shoot? You might as well ask how many women know or have heard of women who seduce celebrities and wouldn't mind a bit of group sex if it was a Rock band. The Rolling Stones always had long queues. Then there is the delightful gel who has recently admitted she has most likely bonked 200 buff young footy studs and not just one at a time.

All of the nanny moralising on OLO cannot alter the fact that there are people out there who indulge in all sorts of legal sex practices and with various combinations of sex partner. For goodness sakes, group swinging parties are advertised quite openly and I am sure that choice can be catered for regardless of what side you bat for, including both sides. There is sex in a group and group sex and every other variation.

So why is everyone acting po-faced like Tracey Grimshaw that group sex happens and pretending that 'girls' would never participate unless tricked into it? Likewise the feigned shock that some men (and some women) might get a buzz out of watching others is a bit much. Similarly any insinuatiomn that only men enjoy porn is proved wrong by the growing volume of porn aimed at women. Again, what lesbian site has no porn and smutty jokes?

Whether or not I would encourage or discourage anyone from participating in such acts is irrelevant and in some cases I might even be accused of discrimination for judging those who do partake.

One thing I have learned over the years is that my original estimate that only the stupid and uneducated would indulge in risky and gross sexual acts was way, way out. Some may occasionally regret their excesses and risks, but usually that doesn't deter them in the future. It seems that jaded appetites need different stimulation. Urk!

"Urk!"
I guess that's a 'yes' for scenario 1. Thanks, Cornflower.
I'm still quite sincerely curious.

Yabby< The night before she seemingly went into a toilet with two guys for a bit of sex>

I thought I read that this was another woman who was also set up by footballers; also when she looked up one of them was taking photos over the top of the toilet cubicle as well.

I don’t have that paper here now but I remember checking that the woman’s name was different because they had that photo of Clare fronting the story. I checked it carefully and I’m pretty sure that it was a different woman. Seems to be a bit of confusion and heresay regarding this story.

<as teenagers we commonly barged into each others rooms> And if your mate was having private sex in there with a girl would you also not have apologised and backed out of the room unless you knew your mate had previously agreed to your participation.

So they have been paying her money to keep quiet. Hush money?
If they are guilty of gang rape and the police didn't have enough evidence to charge them then she is entitled to some kind of compensation from them, but obviously she hasn't been able to deal with the aftermath as the traumatic emotions have caught up with her and has told all.