I would agree with Barnes on one thing…the thirty day rule…

If those who attempt to enter Australia by deceitfully avoiding migration control cannot prove their bona-fides as genuine refugees, they should be shipped back to wherever they came from after 30 days, or remain in detention until they do.

Their choice to come here with fraudulent intent, their right to suffer the consequences of such fraud.

As for Barnes commenting on the structure of the Liberal party, who is he to pretend he is anything other than an opinion without an audience, a lobbyist flunky and political turncoat, hardly characteristics which qualify him for anything, except what he is doing, which is shooting the breeze and pretending he is making a difference.

Polycarp, I obviously concur with your post… merry Xmas, by the way

As I predicted, same old, same old..

Porkycrap: << fake assylum (sic) seekers >>

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true Porky. As Barns points out, the vast majority of asylum seekers who arrive in Australia by boat prove to be genuine, and are accepted as such by our Immigration authorities.

Troll Rouge: << those who attempt to enter Australia by deceitfully avoiding migration control >>

Ditto. As you well know, it is not unlawful for bons fide refugees to seek asylum in Australian territory, as long as they present themselves to the appropriate authorities promptly on arrival, as those who arrive here by boat almost invariably do.

As usual, the deceitfulness of our resident xenophobes and racists is projected on to those hapless souls who are desperate enough to seek asylum in Australia via dangerous voyages in unsafe boats.

Oh, CJ, I acknowlege that these people are Asylum Seekers. But once they have crossed a number of suitable countrys, that have the same life values of religion & customs as they have, they ceased to be Asylum Seekers for the purpose of this country.

As for being Xenophobic. You are wrong. I'm sure nobody hates these people. I don't. I'm sure there are a lot of nice people amoung them. The point is they have jumped the line to immigrate & crossed many borders with people of the same religion & culture as they to get here. Countrys they could have settled in & made a nice life for them selves amoung like minded people.

As for being Racist. I don't think so. Just because a person expresses an opinion on any matter it doesn't make them xxxist if it differs that opinion differs from yours. An old ploy that is becoming increasingly inefective.

The reason they come here. In 1975 the Aotolla Kemlaine (I know I spelt that wrong) made a speach in either Derby of Geralton to the resident Muslim population. In that speach the said that Australia was a religious desert. As such it was right for conversion to Islam. If Australians refused to accept Allah then they should be forced to accept Muslim values. Therefore they should encourage as many of their relation & friends to get to Australia. They should take up positions of power in the Government & institute Sharia Law.

There was a mentally legal Iraqi who killed two men recently in New Zealand. This is a legal one imagine what potential for psychos we have if we opened the border to illegals.

i find the sheer heartless of people like boaz-carp and jayb astonishing and deeply depressing. does it bother you guys at all that some of those sent back were subsequently killed?

and even assuming these guys are illegal, even assuming these guys had no immediate violence to fear in their home countries. who are they? they're simply people trying to find a better life for themselves and their families. oh, what monsters they are! the total lack of empathy from some posters here is appalling.

i don't know what jayb's agenda is, though his post smells exactly of everything he denies. and poly-boaz? he who pretends to beam the love of god? i can't find the words for my contempt for him.