They're like moths to a flame, aren't they? This latest one's a ripper -

tobysred: << There was a mentally legal Iraqi who killed two men recently in New Zealand. This is a legal one imagine what potential for psychos we have if we opened the border to illegals. >>

While it's fascinating to ponder who might be considered a "mentally legal Iraqi" these days, perhaps dear toby might reflect on the mental health of asylum seekers who were driven nuts by their appalling and inhumane treatment in Howard's Australian gulag.

Refugees who have been forced to leave their homes, communities and familiars behind are already traumatised, and to subject them to any more institutionalised inhumanity than is absolutely necessary is unconscionable.

Many thanks to bushbasher for injecting some humanity into the thread.

You can always predict them :) as CJ says "like moths to a flame"

BUSHBASHER (should be Poly basher) says:

"who are they? they're simply people trying to find a better life for themselves and their families."

Now..that little bit of incisive political (mal)analysis utterly astounds me.

BUSHY.. I'm prepared to spend a couple of hours as your therapist if it helps you overcome this fuzzy (but well intended) thinking of yours.
Seriously.. you must be one of those warm hearted people who simply does not 'get' some of the harsher realities of life.

NO-ONE is 'just' someone looking for a better life. They are political, social, religious and cultural beings. And to use your word "IF" they happen to have certain antagonistic religious views or... if they come from Calabria and are related to an established Mafia don here....in either case you have serious issues to resolve about their suitability.

IF...they happen to be that kind of status "looking for a better life" then they are ABsolutely illegal, unwelcome and should be deported at their own cost poste haste.

You must be an absolute pushover for your kids (if you have any) ... I'm sure that no matter what they do, you will always just see 'warmth and love' in them......

If you actually READ my post.. you would see that I distinguished between genuine and fake assylum seekers.
But hey..don't let a fact or 2 get in the way of a brilliant 'Christian bashing' adventure hey....

COL.. same to you mate.. and glad you pointed out the one redeeming point Barns made (30 day rule.. yep..I can agree with that 2)

Polycarp “You can always predict them”

The unfortunate thing is the resident moron can only accommodate so much in that limited brain if his so he tends to churn the same old ad hominines again and again…

Like you quoted of of bushbasher "who are they? they're simply people trying to find a better life for themselves and their families."

I think you could apply that observation to anyone, including Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and even Queen Elizabeth II… one would presume everyone on earth fell into the category of
‘people trying to find a better life for themselves and their families”

but I don’t see Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or even QEII rocking up in a sinking boat, demanding to jump the queue ahead of real refugees, trying to survive in refugee camps, whilst their visa applications are being pushed back further and further from this year to next year’s quota.

It remains a strange anomoly, how "real refugees" seem to hold no place in the thoughts of the "let 'em in regardless" lobby.

and only the queue jumpers get sympathy or are considered in the act of balancing the rights and aspirations of "unlawful non-citizens" (Migration Act polotical-speak for those previously known as "illegal aliens") versus the rights and aspirations of the law-abiding, legally registered visa holders and citizens.

Barns’ rant about the ‘conservatism’ of the Howard Government merely underlines how far to the left he is. The Coalition is not conservative by any definition of the word. After a period of detention, most illegal entrants were allowed to stay here. How wet left is that!

We should concern ourselves not with small ‘l’ liberalism, but the big ‘L’ Loony Left which has seen the arrival of a seventh boat of illegals almost reaching the mainland.

However, what Barns and his followers might very well find, as smugglers’ boats filled with illegals continue to come, is that that voters will start demanding conservatism (if that’s what it takes to keep illegals out).

Despite the huff and puff of some on OLO, the majority of Australians do not approve of people trying to enter their country illegally. Anyone who doesn’t believe this lives in a world consisting only of OLO, and his own narrow outlook - not the real world where most people have never heard of OLO.

We should build a luxurious plane and have the best psychologists and security guards on it. Every time we pick up an illegal boat we fill up the plane with them pamper them for the 5 hours or however long it takes and take them straight back where they came from or wherever we can drop them.