The masaccre in Mumbai of the non-Muslims by the Muslim militia is a declaration of war on the non-Muslims. It is a wake-up call to the sleepy non-Muslims that if nothing is done, the menance will happen at your very door.

Muslim journalists like to give a spin to the Mumbai masaccre as "India's blame game". No, it is international in character. It shows the true nature of Islam. Jews and foreigners were targetted.

The nationalities killed are 158 Indians and 30 foreigners. The breakdown of the foreigners are as follows: four Americans, four Australians, three Germans, two Israeli-Americans, two Israelis, two Canadians, two French, two Italians, one British-Cypriot, one Dutch, one Japanese, one Jordanian, one Malaysian, one Mauritian, one Mexican, one Singaporean and one Thai.

The injured included those from Australia, USA, UK, Canada, Germany, Canada, Spain, Norway, Finland, Oman, China, Japan, the Philippines and Jordan

The Muslims(Arab imperialists and their stooges) have been fighting the non-Muslims since the founding of Islam. The Koran is their war manual and the mosques are the school of warfare.

The Muslim militia (History of Jihad) war is well documented.

Arabs (when they weren't Muslims)622 – 634; Persians 634 – 651; Byzantines 634 – 1453; Hindus 638 – ; Egyptians 640 – 655; Nubians 650 – ; Berbers 650 – 700; Chinese 650 – 751; Turks 651 – 751; Spaniards 711 – 730; Franks 720 – 732; Reconquista 730 – 1492; Italians 812 – 940 ; Armenians & Georgians 1071 – 1920; Crusades 1096 – 1291; Mongols 1260 – 1300; Albanians 1332 – 1853; Serbs, Croats & Albanians 1334 – 1920; Romanians 1350 – 1699; Bulgarians 1350 – 1843; Croats & Slovenes 1389 – 1843; Poles 1444 – 1699; Russians 1444 – 1918; Greeks 1450 – 1853; Hungarians 1500 – 1683; Austrians 1500 – 1683; Israelis 1948 – ; British 1947 – ;
Americans 9 / 11; Latin America 2003 – ; Danes 200

What a shameless partisan article!.

The culprits of Mumbai massacre were are trained by Pakistan state and they operated with the full support of Pakistan state. It is a shadow war on India. Shame on the author, to blame India for this attack. The lapse of Indian state and the internal problems of India is not an excuse to send a suicide gang to attack Indian Institutions.

The only motivation of the journalist to write such a partisan article must me to please his masters.

The author must be an agent of Pakistani state masquerading as a journalist. Only such a person can justify the attack on Innocent people in Mumbai. He didn’t even had to courtesy to acknowledge the number of people died in the attack.

Shame on you Mr. Syed Atiq ul Hassan, for penning this partisan article. You are the one who rattling jingoism fanning hatred between India and Pakistan.

Yor writings are part of the problem. Not part of the solution..

While the author wishes to build a case of the Mumbai Massacre being just one more act of communal violence in India the problem is it is an international outrage where Westerners were intentionally targetted by professional terrorists. Naturally Australians are concerned why two Australians were killed.

The initial feeling of many Indians, both Hindu and Muslim, that the Mumbai terrorist group originated from Pakistan was vindicated by the extensive physical evidence found. Many calls from phones found in the hands of the dead terrorists were found to be back to phone-numbers in Pakistan and a GPS reciever was found that had recorded the sea journey from Pakistan to India taken by the terrorist). The terrorist did not try to hide their Pakistani origins - it is as if they set out to fan Pakistani-Indian tensions).

I'd add that most countries accepted the right of the US to invade Afghanistan after 9/11. Most countries als don't oppose the US firing Hellfire missiles at terrorists within Pakistan (now). So why can't India do the same.

Pakistan is a perpetual basket case of armed gangs: the military, ISI and Taliban, LeT etc who control it in a virtual protection racket.

The veneer of civilian rule is there to impress Western aid donors as well as international and domestic political supporters while the armed cronies really rule.

The author mentions President Zardari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asif_Ali_Zardari know by many Pakistan's as Mr 10% due to his profiteering while his wife, Benazir Bhutto, attempted to rule as a civilian. Zardari is a lightweight who is unable to stop US missiles, and Special Forces from hitting the terrorists in Pakistan that he can't combat or control.

It is always easier to blame someone else before. The author blames Mumbai on a cycle of communal violence (mostly Hindu, he conveys). Equally many Pakistani's say that it is the British who poorly planned the independence of India (and Afghan border surveying) who are to blame for Pakistan's present problems.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/2008/12/pakistan-arrests-mumbai-attack-suspect.html

For Hassan to compare the regional “past carnage” perpetrated by Indians with the ‘universal’ carnage that extremist Islam is committing against the West and all other infidels, is to inerasably besmirch his journalistic objectivity as well as reveal his shallowness as political analyst. And he makes it quite clear where his loyalties lie as a Muslim Pakistani.

India's "blame" is no "game" because it is the world's 'BLAME' against radical Islam.

http://kotzabasis1.com

Extracts from government-sponsored texts, Pakistan's CFederal Ministry of Education:
'Who is a Hindu? A Hindu is an enemy of Islam'
'Before the Arab conquest, people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists & Hindus. Before the arrival of Islam in India, people lived in untold misery'.
'European nations have worked for three centuries to subjugate the Muslim world'.
Class IV Text:
* The Muslims of Pakistan provided all facilities to the Hindus and the Sikhs who left for India in 1947. The Hindus and the Sikhs looted Muslims in India with both hands and attacked their caravans, buses and trains. One million Muslims were martyred on their way to Pakistan.
* The Hindus treated the ancient population of the Indus Valley very badly, set fire to their houses and butchered them.
* The religion of Hindus did not teach good things, Hindus did not respect women.
Class V Text:
* After the war of 1965, India with the Hindus in East Pakistan, incited East Pakistan against West Pakistanis. In December 1971, Indians attacked East Pakistan and East Pakistan separated from us. We should receive military training to foil the designs of the enemy in the future. (Presumably, not even a single Muslim in East Pakistan, including Mujibur Rehman, fought against West Pakistanis in 1971. No mention that W Pakistan exploited E Pakistan/Bangladesh as a colony.)
* The Hindu has always been an enemy of Islam.
Class VI Text:
* In Deebal (Sindh), a Hindu temple had a flag. Hindus believed that if the flag kept flying, nobody could harm them. Mohd bin Qasim found out this. The Muslims catapulted stones at the temple and at the flag, making it fall. The whole city became tumultuous and the Hindus lost heart. Muslims clambered up the temple and forced open the door. Qasim's army entered the city and after conquering it, announced peace. The Muslims treated the vanquished so well many Hindus converted to Islam. (The education and their society carry on with lies and hatred. So we cannot expect Pakistanis to know the truth about India/Hindus/Bangladesh.) Does Islam respect truth?

Pl respect the truth, Pakistan. Stop feeding your children lies about your history just because your army wants a fight. Don't disgrace Islam with lies and terrorism. Stop telling young men that the best thing to do with their lives is to die so old generals can pretend they are 'martyrs' and not pawns. I am an Indian Muslim and happy in India.

Pakistani Education:

A school student Mohammed Qasim participated in a contest held to celebrate Pakistan's Independence Day in August 2005. The topic was: 'Why Islam and Pakistan are integral to each other'. Deviating from the main theme, this Class XI student of Lahore's Government Central Model School lashed out against Hindus, giving vent to inexplicable anger and hatred, particularly shocking because the Hindu community, an infinitesimally small percentage of Pakistan's population, has never been an aspect of Qasim's life. The 14-year-old boy said, 'We hate Hindus because they are Hindustanis and the number one enemy of both Islam and Pakistan. We know it through our history textbooks on Pakistan Studies. We learn what happened in school'.

The attitude of the Government of Pakistan towards India, the land of infidels, is responsible for this emotional outburst. Most textbooks prescribed are primers of hate against Hinduism and India. History or biology, Pakistani students get anti-India and anti-Hindu lessons. Schoolboy Qasim illustrates vividly the deadly impact, where history is manipulated to foster national politics. There, knowledge becomes a vital tool in the construction of national identity and the sense of nation is promoted through lessons in bigotry, hatred and gross misrepresentation. These extracts from textbooks in government schools show how the rulers uses text-books to develop an anti-India, anti-Hindu mindset and fan Muslim sentiments against Christians and the West. Government's control over education is exercised through Lt Gen (retd) Javed Ashraf Qazi, who heads the Federal Education Ministry. As the head of the ISI between 1993 and 1995, Qazi supervised the recruitment of students from Pakistan's madrassas for constituting the extremist Taliban

Pete, Kochou and tang;
The author never appreciated not supported terrorism. I have read many past articles of the author some of them still available on this forum where he has criticised and condemned even Pakistani government, dictatorship, he has written so many article on people-to-people contact on India-Pakistan. He is a human activist who has written many article many against Muslim autocrats – shame on you to accuse him.
It is really shame on you that you have accused the author as being Pakistani agent without any evidence. I believe your nick names are fake and you must be Hindu extremists who believe on killing Muslims, Christian and even low caste Hindus..... you don’t have courage to accept that India is full of racism, caste-ism ...... tell me you shameless people; is there any India’s neighbour who is happy with India... Every Indian neighbour is fadeup with India attitude and rigit and visionless policy.... What about Indian insurgency in Sri Lanka..... you love to talk about Pakistan insurgency and terrorism but don’t want to talk about killing of thousand of innocents, rape of young women and children by Indian army in Kashmir...

The problem is that Pakistan is not an observer to terrorist violence in India. It actively facilitates it. Ejaz Haidar of the Pakistani newspaper "The Friday Times" calls it a state of subconventional warfare against India.

When Ajaib Singh Bagri and Ripudaman Singh Malik were arrested by Canadian RCMP for their role in the bombing of an Indian 747 airliner over the Irish sea, they were about to flee to safety in Pakistan.
The role of Pakistan in training and funding the terrorists in the Punjab is well documented.

Pakistan did the same in the Indian North East, from bases in then East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

"Continuous Struggle" - the Biography of Amanullah Khan, one of the founders of the JKLF (Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front) documents the role of Pakistan in starting the insurgency in Kashmir:
He writes "The ISI first made contact with the JKLF in early 1987 through the organisation's senior leader, Farooq Haider. Haider made a deal with the ISI whereby the JKLF was to bring to POK young Kashmiris willing to fight Indian rule; they would then be given military training and arms by the ISI to start an insurgency in the Valley. The first batch of eight young fighters from Indian Kashmir were said to have reached POK in February 1988. They were given military training and weapons by the ISI and sent back with instructions not to start anything until they got a green signal from Pakistan" "Three separatist leaders, Mohammed Afzal, Ghulam Hasan Lone and Ghulam Nabi Bhatt, were called to Muzaffarabad in June 1988. After lengthy deliberations, we asked them to start the insurgency on 13 July, 1988."

That the Pakistani military runs terrorist training camps is no secret. When Bill Clinton sent cruise missiles to kill Osama Bin Laden, they killed Pakistani military trainers at the camps instead.

Just today Ansar Burney, a former Pakistani Federal Government Minister and human rights activist stated that terrorist camps were still being operated with the active complicity of the Pakistani military.

India treats Muslims well relative to the treatment of Hindus in Pakistan. All sides have members are poor and have nothing to lose and what to get even. No one is to blame. I think it would be preferable if it were partitioned along etho religious lines.

I apologise that this brief post will not do justice to the article or to the other contributions, but I thought my post to http://johnquiggin.com/ may be of interest:

http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/27/terror-attacks-in-mumbai/#comment-223004
"... I suggest readers open their minds to the possibility that the Mumbai attacks were a ‘false flag’ operation as were the devastating terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001."

The Mumbai attack is discussed, amongst other places at http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2008/12/double-cover-4-beyond-ridiculous.html .

If anyone considers my claim about the September 11 attack to be far-fetched, view this YouTube presentation (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44L0-2zL8) or read this post (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166#51675) and subsequent discussion from an Online Opinion forum on “9/11 Truth” and then try to convince yourself that the ‘collapse’ of World Trade Center Tower 7 on 11 September 2001 was not a controlled demolition.

See also http://911oz.com http://911truth.org http://911blogger.com http://patriotsquestion911.com etc

Hi Malik

I appreciate that, on this your 17th OLO comment, you don't know much about me or other posters that you falsely condemn.

Interesting how the debate has descended into name-calling. Unlike some passionate commenters Syed Atiq ul Hassan is indeed a thoughtful balanced writer.

I agree Syed "is a human activist who has written many article many against Muslim autocrats"

I've accused Syed of nothing. Read my post again - carefully.

Due to my disagreement with some of Syed's comments about India and Pakistan I put up arguments to set the picture straight (as I see it of course).

When Syed says "India must not sabotage these efforts to build relations by acting antagonistically." that, in the context of Mumbai, is placing too much blame or onus on India.

Balanced debate in the Australian tradition rather than sectarian passion is what most people expect here. This should not lead to suspicions of being "agents" of anything. India is far from perfect – no country is. While I see India as being a large and positive part of Australia's future (many more advertise China...) my own continuous Anglo Australian origins go back to the 1860s.

I criticise Pakistan not Syed. Having known many Pakistanis, they, like Indians (Hindu and Muslim) are generally reasonable, forthright people who say what they mean.

In Ireland terrorists of both sides gained a high political and manly standing because it was always easier to play the Blame Game. This false approach still exists in too many countries outside Australia.

Countries like Pakistan which cannot survive financially, politically or in terms of security without massive US assistance should examine themselves a little bit more. A history of being held to ransom by those who hold guns (the Pakistani military, ISI, LeT, AQ, Taliban etc) has not helped governance in Pakistan over the last 60 years.

If Syed is saying that India should reply with moderation due to its maturity – and thereby stand above the cycle of violence, then I agree with him.

Regards

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/2008/12/pakistan-arrests-mumbai-attack-suspect.html

With THAT kind of education.... people are suprised when Australians kick up a stink about a "Muslim" school in Sydney?

The Terrorist Land and Envirnment court of NSW has just perpetrated another great injustice.. steam rolling and trampling the clearly expressed will of the people a-GAINST a Muslim school in Bass Hill.....

and soon, the might perpetrate more terrorrism against the Australians of Camden.

Pathetic. What this man is saying is that India should do nothing and pretend these vile murders never happened ("India must avoid the blame game") and be nice to those that support the terrorists ("instead develop long-term relations with its neighbours"). It is India's fault ("India has to work at strengthening its homeland security by banning extremist organisations and groups") and must be nice to Muslims ("justice to the minorities") .

No mention of Muslims and jihad against infidels, of course. Is is never Islam's fault, is it? Muslims attack, kill, and cause suffering and this person blames it on India. These terrorists were only doing what Mr Hassan's prophet did.

Here is a quote from the NY Times: There is no sane reason to think Lashkar-e-Taiba would shut down if the situation in Kashmir improved. Its literature is much concerned with establishing a caliphate in Central Asia, and murdering those who insult the Prophet. Its leader, Hafiz Saeed, who lives on a large estate outside Lahore bought with Saudi Money, goes about his business with minimal interference from the Pakistani government. Lashkar-e-Taiba is part of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders (the Qaeda franchise). Mr. Saeed’s hatreds are catholic — his bugbears include Hindus, Shiites and women who wear bikinis. He regards democracy as "a Jewish and Christian import from Europe," and considers suicide attacks to be in accordance with Islam. He has a wider strategy: "At this time our contest is Kashmir. Let’s see when the time comes. Our struggle with the Jews is always there." As he told his followers in Karachi at a rally in 2000: "There can’t be any peace while India remains intact. Cut them, cut them — cut them so much that they kneel before you and ask for mercy."

Remember, the people that support this terror are the same ones that build mosques in Australia and around the world.

Mr Hassan, These people you support and make excuses for killed little children in cold blood, but that doesn't bother you. People like you are beneath contempt.

Kactuz

Malik

The only difference I can think of between Pakistanis and Indians, generally speaking, is their religion. Racially, ethnically, they are from the same stock, South Asians, although they may speak diverse languages. About 80% of the people in India are Hindus, and almost 97% in Pakistan are Muslims.

South Asia has a very rich culture and amongst the earliest of civilisation to develop to a high degree. But today why is Pakistan and Bangladesh no better than the many failed states of the third world?

The credentials of the spiritual father of Pakistan are indeed admirable. A first rate scholar at philosophy, a graduate of law at Lincoln's Inn. On top of that he had a doctorate from the Faculty of Philosophy of the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität at Munich.

“Iqbal was a strong proponent of the political and spiritual revival of Islamic civilisation across the world, but specifically in India; a series of famous lectures he delivered to this effect were published as The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam. One of the most prominent leaders of the All India Muslim League, Iqbal encouraged the creation of a "state in northwestern India for Indian Muslims" in his 1930 presidential address”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Iqbal

The main difference is that India is a true secular democracy and Hinduism is truly a religion which is treated as a personal thing. Pakistan has a semblance of democracy but Islam is not truly a religion but an ideology steep in superstitious practices, hate, gender inequality, state of denial, and 1001 debilitating factors that retards progress. Corruption by politicains? Both have their share of corruption.

Perhaps you might like to consider reading “Muslims: A Shackled People Enslaved by the Koran” from a website by ex-Muslims.

http://www.islam-watch.org/Brahmachari/Muslims-Enslaved-by-Koran-Islam.htm

In the Pakistani newspaper Dawn

http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/12/top6.htm

During the course of Dawn’s own investigations last week our reporters were able to locate a family who claimed to be the kin of the arrested young man in Mumbai....
the man who said he was Amir Kasab confirmed to Dawn that the young man whose face had been beamed over the media was his son.

For the next few minutes, the fifty-something man of medium build agonized over the reality that took time sinking in, amid sobs complaining about the raw deal the fate had given him and his family.

“I was in denial for the first couple of days, saying to myself it could not have been my son,” he told Dawn in the courtyard of his house in Faridkot, a village of about 2,500 people just a few kilometres from Deepalpur on the way to Kasur. “Now I have accepted it.

“This is the truth. I have seen the picture in the newspaper. This is my son Ajmal.”

Variously addressed as Azam, Iman, Kamal and Kasav, the young man, apparently in his 20s, is being kept in custody at an undisclosed place in Mumbai.

Thanks for the tip John Frum

So Syed has tried to create an element of uncertainty by saying in his article "Coming back to recent attacks in Mumbai: in India the law enforcement agencies can make anyone responsible for any crime with the aim of either hiding the facts or avoiding responsibility".

Yet here is a Pakistani newspaper, Dawn, advising that the family and home town of Amir Kasab (the Mumbai terrorist captured alive) positively identify him as their Pakistani son.

The Pakistani Government and its organ the ISI has been claiming there is insufficient proof of Pakistani involvement. I wonder whether they will choose to recognise the information in Dawn?

My American friends are being led to believe by US Government spin that Mumbai was yet another al Qaeda operation - and blame the usual unreachable suspects.

At all costs the US cannot ruffle Pakistan that "stay the course" bastion of the War on Terror.

AUSTRALIA - AFGHANISTAN

On another matter - like Vietnam the longer Australia fights in Afghanistan the longer we win the battles http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/australians-have-taliban-on-the-run/1384490.aspx . An endless supply of battles is guaranteed.

We can be proud of our victories but it is a seemingly endless war. As in Vietnam many of the people we are fighting are defending their soil for their own reasons.

Futile unreality also exists with the puppet central Government of Afghanistan which has little power or credibility outside the Kabul city area.

History repeats itself - billions more will be spent - our soldiers steadily killed - until the US gives Australia permission to withdraw.

Pete

The Pakistani journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad writing in the Asia Times...

http://atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JL13Df02.html

"India presented Pakistan with difficult-to-deny evidence through US officials soon after the Mumbai attack and made it quite plain that it wanted action against the LET for its links to the attack. One of the 10 attackers admitted to being trained by the LET.

The Pakistani media were given directives to label the Mumbai attack a conspiracy hatched by India's Research and Analysis Wing, Israel's Mossad and the US's Central Intelligence Agency to tighten the noose around Pakistan"

Najam Sethi, Editor of the Pakistani periodical "The Friday Times"...

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/12122008/page1.shtml

"President Zardari’s recent statement that “non-state actors want a war between Pakistan and India” is an admission of culpability since most non-state actors of repute in the region are based in Pakistan in pursuit of the Pakistani military’s national security objectives in the region.

Our military IS the state and not just an organ of the state; our military fashions national security policy; and our civilian leaders and regimes can challenge its supremacy only at their own peril,"

Mr Hassan

What a load of rot. You are obfuscating. Until you and your fellow co-religionists come out of denial, nothing will change in Pakistan or India. Your co-religionists who kill non-muslims are doing so because your prophet did so. You and your co-religionists give energy to your prophets message by continuing to hold him up as a saint and bowing towards Mecca, the holy keepsake of Muhammed's mentally deranged message.

I feel sorry for you and your people.

Op-Ed in Pakistan's Jang newspaper by Ayaz Amir...

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=151432

"From which the slow conclusion emerges that it may be time to bid a final farewell to the diplomacy of 'jihad'. There was a time when Pakistan could get away with the sponsoring of cross-border 'jihad'. We did it in Afghanistan, forgetting that what made that such a resounding success was American sponsorship. Profiting by the Afghan experience, and indeed spurred by it, we did it again in Indian-occupied Kashmir. When a few thousand fighters tied down nearly half a million Indian troops we considered it brilliant strategy.

Cross-border terrorism was a term then unknown (incidentally, the man who helped bring it in fashion was Gen Musharraf with his Kargil adventure). But times have changed. Adventures once affordable are no longer so. What was doable 10, 15 years ago is now hazardous business, the international terrain having changed after 9/11."

Shahida

When I see what is perpetrated by Pakistan under the guise of Islam, I shudder. Are your old generals of full of hate for young men that they send them to war for no reason, simply calling it 'religious reasons'? Please remember India has more Muslims than Pakistan and we, thank God, have grownup with democracy and a multi-religious environment. Regarding neighbors, I presume Afghanistan and Iran love you! I also presume you have no problems with Baluchis and Sindh. What will you do when Kashmiri Pakistan reiterates it wants freedom from you and prefers Inda ? Denounce it as one more Indian lie?
You too will have to answer Allah why you sent children to kill your neighbors who have done you no harm but simply because some power hungry generals wanted you to. Pakistan, you are a disgrace to Islam.
In any case, Jinnah, your founder was a Khoja, a Shia and not a Sunni. When will you learn to treat other Muslims well, never mind women, Christians and Hindus?

Shahida

Typical of Pakistani Media!
Presumably the writers are educated,read news and understand the meaning of evidence.Quote from Dawn, leading Pak paper

Pak media outraged by India’s ‘belligerence’
4 Dec 2008, 0122 hrs IST, TNN

Indignation with India’s alleged “belligerence” marks Pakistan’s English language press on Wednesday. Newspaper editorials reject the evidence that the 26/11 terrorists came from Pakistan. Instead, they find India and US ganging up on Pakistan, which they say is the real “victim” of terror.

Dawn’s editorial titled “A go-ahead for India?” says US president-elect Obama is stoking India-Pakistan hostilities. President-elect Barack Obama seemed to have ditched this time-honoured American policy. There are concerns (in Pakistan) that India has benefited from the war on terror and has managed to advance its national interests. Overreaction to New Delhi’s demands would mean disastrous consequences for the region.”

The theme finds resonance in the popular daily from Peshawar and Quetta, the Frontier Post. Its editorial says, “Their (India’s) perceivable intent to link up the Mumbai holocaust’s perpetrators to Pakistan and then to al-Qaida is clearly intended to cash in — diplomatically, politically and militarily — on the current American assertions that it is now not Iraq or Afghanistan but Pakistan which is turning into al-Qaida’s haven.”

The pointing finger swings to India. The editorial adds, “With its demarche served on Islamabad, New Delhi has ratcheted up tensions to a perilous pitch which, if it doesn’t pull back, could go out of hand and boil over into an eventuality...It (India) cannot expect Pakistan to pay up the price for its own security and intelligence apparatus’s collapse. Nor can Pakistan become the guinea pig of its political compulsions or electoral necessities. It indeed is with a pinch of salt that one can take even its evidence.”

(So it is India's lies that the terrorists are from Pakistan!
Has Pakistan totally forgotten what truth is?)

Editorial in the Pakistani newspaper The News

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=151869

"While conspiracy theories, involving a plot by Indians to frame Pakistan abound, the facts have to be faced up to. No matter how tempting it is to grasp at straws, these theories sound fanciful. It seems certain that Kasab is indeed Pakistani. The 'link' to the country that New Delhi had spoken of and Condoleezza Rice had alluded to, does indeed exist. This for Pakistan is terrible news"