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Disaster of Israel's making : Comments

By Sonja Karkar, published 12/11/2008

A peace effort in the Middle East has been 15 years in the undoing.

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Yes, it is so very much so, as Henry Kissinger warned way back in the late 1960s -

Allowing Israel to go militarily nuclear will not only upset the balance of power in the Middle East, but will place Israel in the position of not only a dangerous nation iself, but will place her in danger from other Middle East nations.

For years up till right now, we have had the danger of Iran going Nuko, and we could well ask, would such be happening if Israel had not become a ME danger to other ME fellow nations herself?

Only hope Obama uses true wisdom and understanding concerning this problem caused by strong but politically stupid nations shutting their eyes and ears at the time.
Posted by bushbred, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:32:13 AM
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Good article.Thanks.

One must go to the heart of the zionist core beliefs where all actions are born.

"Talmud states that there are two types of souls exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from the satanic spheres, whilst the Jewish soul stems from holiness " say influential Jewsw like Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky.
They also go on to say:" Gush Emunim rabbis have continually reiterated that Jews who killed Arabs should not be punished" Relying on the Code of Maimonides and the Halacha, Rabi Ariel stated " A Jew who killed a non-Jew is exempt from human judgement and has not violated the prohibition of murder."

About half of the Jewish community subscribe to Gush Emunim.

This is the view of Shahak and Mezvinsky.

All Israeli action proceeds fromsuch values.How the hell can you get these people to compromise and reach any peace accord.
Posted by socratease, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:10:24 PM
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Bushbred,

looking to Obama is hopeless. The mans a hollow puppet. His Chief of staff, his first appointment is a bloke by the nane of Rahm Emanuel. Chief iten on his CV is that he was an Israeli Armed Forces conscript.

Why didn't you understand Obama's position on Israel and Palestine before his election?
Sure he was friends with a former public relations agent of the PLO but now I guess you'll understand his mode of operating. Create an impression while camoflaging his true positions. Expect much more of the same over the next 4 years.

The Palestinians can expect little change from Obama.

However once Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq expect the Israeli's to bring about their own destruction, for they'll launch an nuclear attack on Iran.

Courage Sonja. It always prevails over bullies. Just look to history and observe Israel's comrades in methods: the Nazi's and Hitler, the Communists with Stalin and Mao, the English in Ireland. History is littered with them. They all reaped what they sowed.
Posted by keith, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 3:22:58 PM
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Sorry to dissappoint you Sonja...but

-the settler movement is growing...
-Religious Jews are increasing...
-Jerusalam will never be part of a Palestinian state.(Specially East)
-God gave the land from the Red sea to the Eurphrates to Israel....

If you'd like to take issue with that last point.. just have a read of the Hamas charter

<<Palestine is an Islamic Waqf throughout all generations and to the Day of Resurrection. Who can presume to speak for all Islamic Generations to the Day of Resurrection? This is the status [of the land] in Islamic Shari’a, and it is similar to all lands conquered by Islam by force, and made thereby Waqf lands upon their conquest, for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection.>>

Notice those words "conquered by force"?

Well..guess what? The historical chickens have come home to roost and the Jews have taken BACK what was taken FROM them by Invading Arab Muslims.

The only difference now is that the shoe is on the other foot..the Muslims are whining that they have lost territory..WHICH they gained through illegal conquest anyway.

So...the establishment of Israel is in fact an act of righting the crimes of the past perpetrated by Arab Muslims.. with Mr Omar bin Khattab being the chief criminal. (he led the Muslim procession in to Jerusalem)

Well..I suppose there are a lot of Jews who also remember KHAYBAR and now.. as they reflect on the words of Mohammad..who allowed them to work on the land after conquering them.. (at 50% gross tax) but of course they no longer owned the land.... HE did... aaah.. I guess now they (the settlers) are giving the middle finger to any bright spark to tries to tell them that the land is anyone's other than THEM!

You reap what you sow.. sometimes it takes a few centuries.. but if you sow conquering..don't be surprised if you reap being conquered.
Posted by Polycarp, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 3:39:46 PM
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Poly if you posted under a new username every day we could all play 'find DB'.

You rant. It stands out a mile.
Posted by bennie, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 4:17:27 PM
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Keith. Sarah lost and has gone into oblivion with her invisible friend. Sorry mate!

Hey! Boaz David why did you change your sign in? That often indicates a lack of confidence in oneself!
Posted by Kipp, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 4:41:16 PM
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