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Disaster of Israel's making : Comments

By Sonja Karkar, published 12/11/2008

A peace effort in the Middle East has been 15 years in the undoing.

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an interesting link
that has some discusion about the book from which not a letter is allowed to be cut
[very interesting info about the nights of zion]
and their black heart book

http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm

it explains a lot about how zionism highjacked judism
of course more info is found at jew watch

while we are at it know israel means wars with god

so we have gods own people
yet they know him not

in the intrests that they do
i reveal the living god is love
light ,love ,life [logus]

there is one life GIVER
the living life giver who's sure sign is life [good /god]

we chose to know the voice of the life giver
[living to love god and love neighbour]

or obey the small voice of hate/fear ie the life taker
[killing to eliminate all life
[thus not of god][the life GIVER/sustainer;love]

jesus reveals by their deeds will we know them#
[ie who serve's love [life]
or hate , fear [death]

the disaster ,wrought by those who war against god
is designed to bring the destruction of armogedon
[to bring their MESSiah][out of his pit]
to realise his hell on gods earth

it dosnt matter if you believe it
they do

[they isnt all jews , not even most,
only those subverted [decieved]to serve zion]
while we are at it realise jesus WAS OFFERED this realm
#[and refused it]

[why should the peacemaker return till WE bring peace ,

[besides the gate through which jesus is to emerge is sealed and the exit has been turned into a cemetry]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 9:39:14 PM
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Kipper Snacks... my monica is probably going to change again :)

I am intending to use my nick as an educational tool.

Why not look up Polycarp ? (Bishop of Smyrna) Find the circumstances of his demise....
he was a real person..and had a personal relationship with John the author of the 4th Gospel.. getting quite close to some serious history there you know.

Read the book of Ruth... and the story of David...

All worth while exercises :)

I assure you it is not lack of confidence that I manage my nick in a certain way.

It is also useful to see how much opposition one gets simply because of the nick... rather than the issue at stake :)
You might call it 'research'.

BENNIE :) not a bad idea.. could make OLO more intersting eh.

Actually.. that last bit wasn't a 'rant' it was just a clear statement of history.

Oops..wait.. the 'Jerusalem will never be' bit.. aah..now that was a rant :) granted.. The rest is simply factual.

There is an element of 'stick it to em' in there.. because I hate it when people justify their historic crimes with theology "Ever since.. taken by force by the Muslims" Israel, according to them.. became an "Islamic" waqf until the day of resurrection.. HAH! well.. the Hamas/Palestinians can try all they like.. just like the Philistines did in the past...to re-take Israel.. personally I think they have a snowflakes chance in hell of doing it.

But hey..don't let nuclear equipped enemy get in the way of a good theological/military story eh :)
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 13 November 2008 8:12:31 AM
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yeah well Poly there are three sides to this and every story. Yours, theirs, and the truth in between.
Posted by bennie, Thursday, 13 November 2008 8:31:04 AM
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Aw Boazy, don't change your "monica" (sic) again - Porkycrap suits you so well!
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 13 November 2008 8:31:14 AM
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Poly old boy,
Again you your out of tune two sting fiddle is playing untrue notes.
I suggest that you read a bit more archeological history into the origins of the jews.
Your self referencing reasoning only defeats 'the featless' ("Zorro the gay blade" movie).
What puzzles me is why you bother flogging a dead horse (either RSPCA or kinky movie site stuff. You're as likely to gain a convert as me becoming Pope. Even the camel eye of a needle (BIG blender) is more likely
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 13 November 2008 8:37:32 AM
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Yet another example of self-delusion, Boaz.

>>Polycarp was a real person..and had a personal relationship with John the author of the 4th Gospel.<<

As you very well know, Boaz, an honest person would say:

"Polycarp was a real person, who some believe had a personal relationship with the John who some scholars consider to be the author of the 4th Gospel."

Repeating it to yourself does not make it any truer, Boaz. Yours is one opinion amongst many, as I have pointed out to you before.

"Who wrote John’s Gospel? James Charlesworth says, 'The apostle Thomas.' Ben Witherington believes it was Lazarus. And Esther de Boer contends the author of John’s Gospel was Mary Magdalene. Many others believe the author was in fact a committee of unknown authors, editors, and redactors—the Johannine community" [Dr Andreas Kostenberger.]

As I am sure that you are also aware, there even remain doubts that John appointed Polycarp bishop.

While Irenaeus reported that Polycarp lived in Ephesus until "the time of Trajan" (98-117), Ignatius wrote in 110 from Ephesus without a single mention. Given that John was supposed to be alive at the time (or very recently deceased), you would have thought that Ignatius would have seized the opportunity to discuss him with Polycarp, would you not?

You can add to that the contradictory evidence of Papias, and the existence of two separate versions of the succession of Bishops in Smyrna, for good measure.

I'm not saying your understanding of the position is incorrect. Just that there is considerable room for reasonable doubt. Your assertions should reflect this, if you want to present an honest picture, and not be accused of self-aggrandizement.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 13 November 2008 9:22:39 AM
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