CJM>"I imagine that the vast majority of Christians are just as appalled as we secular types are, at the tawdry and vicious tactics used by the purportedly Christian anti-abortion lobby during the recent Victorian debates.

CJM>Like several of the most vocal "Christians" who utilise this forum as a soapbox for the promulgation of hateful and bizarre ideas, these idiots give all Christians a bad name."

You're making a large misjudgement that has happened for long enough, CJM. I've spoken before on OLO about the threat of moderates (their irrelevance but private and secret loyalty is used to prop up the extremists). The important point is, in the end they are Christians and always side with the extremists (privately, publicly they may speak out but that is meaningless).

You can "imagine" all you want about the moderates, but that's all it is... Your imagining of a reality which is not actually true. All these moderates have no say within their religion...they actually ends up being just a concealment for the extremists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYM

Spikey,

Wow! The deeper you get, the more incoherent you are.

I must apologise for responding to your uncalled- for, and totally inaccurate comment in the first place.

I will say no more. I don’t want to be responsible for any damage my opinions might do to your delicate condition. I guarantee not to upset you and make you look silly again.

Mr Right,

Your concern for your fellow citizens does you great credit!

I guarantee that your posts make me and my fellow posters look classy. And you haven't really had to try hard at all.