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The Lies Of Hiroshima Are The Lies Of Today : Comments

By John Pilger, published 14/8/2008

There is a 'progression of lies' from the dust of Hirsohima to the wars of today

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Yes.

And speaking of atomic plagues, plus wall to wall lies:

1. http://www.truthout.org/article/the-depleted-uranium-threat
Posted by Ho Hum, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:25:22 AM
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Ho Hum
Depleted Uranium (DU) is almost pure U238 which is not radioactive in any real sense. The author quoted the the extremely long half life which proves that point and no Uranium isotopes are toxic in the normal sense. Even Plutonium is less toxic than some often ingested chemicals.
U235 is the valuable nuclear fuel component in yellow cake and it is only 0.711% of the total Uranium present in that refined oxide ore. In all Uranium ore bodies the ratio of U235 to U238 is the same worldwide except at a couple of sites where water acted as a moderator so that nuclear fission occured naturally over time in the ore body. In those ore bodies the percentage of U235 is even lower than 0.7%. That ratio is why yellow cake can be transported safely. In enrichment every effort is made to recover all the valuable ingredient so that there is a negligible amount of U235 in DU. Small dispersed quantities of U235 is not particularly dangerous as its half life is over 700 million years or around 100 thousand times the half life of the radioactive carbon isotope.
I suggest the author of the article you quoted is talking through his proverbial.
Posted by Foyle, Thursday, 14 August 2008 11:13:36 AM
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As I pointed out in a posting on 12/8, there is new persuasive evidence that it was not the Bomb that finally forced Japan`s surrender but the entry of the Soviet Union into the war.See:Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, "Racing the Enemy:Stalin,Truman and the Surrender of Japan", Harvard Uni Press, 2005. Using the Bomb signalled not only the end of WW2 but also the onset of the Cold War.
Having survived Mutually Assured Destruction of the Cold War, the Post Cold War world is now threatened by the US doctrine of "nuclear primacy". See; Keir A Lieber and Daryl G Press, The Rise of US Nuclear Primacy,"Foreign Affairs",March/April,2006.
In the context of the undeclared war over access to the oil and gas of Central Asia,the escalating conflict between the US and Russia is potentially catastrophic.
Leslie
Posted by Leslie, Thursday, 14 August 2008 11:34:47 AM
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Another modern day revisionist who no doubt minimizes how barbaric the Japanese were. Pilger writes in a time of peace won by the US and Aussie soldiers( many of whom lost their lives). Pilger's hate for the US clearly impairs his vision and ability to report history accurately.

Where the bombs were dropped may be a point of disagreement but the moral high ground taken by Pilger is quite sickening.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:30:04 PM
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Foyle.

The article that I posted was not just about depleted uranium. It was about the interlocking web of lies, obfuscation, deceipt and avoidance of responsibility or buck passing, re every facet of the nuclear industry, wherever it is on the planet.

And how it is disaster for humankind altogether,as everything about it slowly or quickly rots or disintegrates and thus sooner or later become part of our bodies, or of our childrens and grand childrens etc and forever.

Lies which have been spun from day one by the rulers of the Necropolis or the City of the Dead

Cheap, clean, safe energy for all. Or so we were told/assured.

The same kind of lies, and from the same corporate and government spin/lies/propaganda (public relations!!)sources that sold us the "war on terror", and are trying to sell us GMO "foods" too.

It is also related to the cover ups and obfuscations related to this topic too.

1. http://www.truthout.org/article/amy-worthington-the-radiation-poisoning-of-america
Posted by Ho Hum, Thursday, 14 August 2008 2:26:03 PM
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The historical fact is, which Pilger deliberately brushes over so he can make his intellectually crippling and moral argument, that the fear at the time was that the Germans might get the bomb not that “Russia was our enemy,” quoting misleadingly General Groves. Roosevelt had an amicable relationship with Stalin and believed their two countries after the war could reach a modus vivendi and indeed, cooperation. Moreover, the head of the Manhattan Project, Oppenheimer, and many of its other scientists, was a financial supporter, if not a clandestine member, like his brother, of the Communist Party of the USA, and hardly would have taken the directorship of the project if the bomb was to be used “to browbeat the Russians.”

The intelligent errors of the CIA and all of its European counterparts in their estimates that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction, Pilger cleverly transforms them into lies, appealing to the conventional wisdom of the hoi polloi, so he can do his own disinformation in regards to Iran’s covert planning to acquire nuclear weapons, by dubbing it also as a lie, manufactured by the “discredited CIA-sponsored Iranian opposition, the MEK”, so he can give credibility to his own lies.

For what strategic reason would the US and its ally Israel attack Iran, whilst the former is involved at the moment in two wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan, other than the great threat that a nuclear Iran would pose to the region and to the strategic interests of the one and to the existence of the other? Whom the US would have “to browbeat” by letting loose from their silos their nuclear missiles against Iran, other than the latter?

http://power-politics1.blogspot.com
Posted by Themistocles, Thursday, 14 August 2008 3:36:29 PM
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