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The Lies Of Hiroshima Are The Lies Of Today : Comments

By John Pilger, published 14/8/2008

There is a 'progression of lies' from the dust of Hirsohima to the wars of today

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When the Japs recognise in their history books their atrocities and officially apologise for their war time crimes,then all bets are off in terms of feeling guilt for both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.To this day,they still deny any wrong doing!
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 15 August 2008 8:04:14 PM
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Great article John.

For many force fed on a diet of lies and imperialist claptrap such truth is unnerving and produces the usual barrage of abuse, without argument.

War and recession are the twin souls of capitalism in crisis.

They are not aberrations. They flow naturally and inexorably from the way capitalism is organised; from the very nature of the wage slave relationship and the manic drive for profit, profit and more profit.

Only by creating a democratic society where production is organised to satisfy human need can we abolish want and war.

Your truths, John, are helping expose the way our brutal rulers - Rudd, Bush (and Obama or McCain), Brown and Blair, Putin and Hu - run the world for the profit mongers and in fierce economic and military competition with each other.

If that means killing millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Tibet, or Georgia, so be it.

If it meant nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima as part of the chess game of imperialist competition between the US and the Russians in 1945, so be it.

What a contempt for humanity these imperialists on all sides and their supporters have. And the fact that Russian, Chnese and European imperialism feels stymied, contained and constricted by US economic and military dominance only creates a more dangerous world for us and our kids. The predictable outcome unelss we re-organise society will be more Nagasakis and Hiroshimas, more proxy wars, more death and destruction.
Posted by Passy, Saturday, 16 August 2008 8:56:21 AM
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Its bordering on incredible that many think they are enlightened about the real machinations of the world when they cannot see that they are being manipulated by anti-western propaganda. This view dominates the media, not as some would believe the conservative view.

The views of the ABC, for example, are clearly dominated by left wing anti-western ideology. There is little if any alternative conservative media in Australia. Anti-Western ideology is the current dominant media view and Pilger is a classic example.

Pro-Pilger people are just following the Party line yet portray themselves as an oppressed minority, so effective has the indoctrination campaign been.
Posted by Atman, Saturday, 16 August 2008 8:46:28 PM
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WIKIPEDIA: “Between DEC.1937 and March1938, one of the worst massacres in modern times took place when Japanese troops captured the Chinese city of Nanking.
This was just before World War 2 started in 1939.

JAPANESE WAR CRIMES: The Japanese army and JAPANESE CIVILIANS, murdered over 30million Chinese civilians. In 1940 they came up with some noble sounding propaganda for their invasion of China and other Asian countries they called it the “Greater East Asia Co-Operation Sphere”.
In his blinkered attack on America and the West John Pilger fails to see that the Japanese were no innocent bystanders but in fact were guilty of the slaughter of millions before they even got started in World War 2.
Posted by sharkfin, Sunday, 17 August 2008 1:43:50 AM
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Passy,

It is not just the leaders. We all compete with each other in this world for jobs, land and houses, sexual and procreation partners, clean water and decent food etc.

The German people were in no way innocent when they elected Hitler to deal with the Jewish problem and they were in no way innocent when they quitely took possession of the six million or more homes and possessions that were left behind by the exterminated and exiled Jews.
Posted by sharkfin, Sunday, 17 August 2008 2:05:15 AM
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Come on Atman the ABC is hardly anti western. In fact the way they lay into Carpenter I wouldn't even call them left wing.

Conspiracies only exist in the eye of the beholder.
Posted by gusi, Monday, 18 August 2008 1:07:17 AM
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