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Destroying Tibetan identity : Comments

By Arthur Thomas, published 29/7/2008

China conveniently overlooks growing global support for the various Tibet freedom movements.

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Congratulations on the courage and insight with this article.
This exposé is a timely reminder that these Olympics have been a shambles from the word go and will undoubtedly go down in history as the Games held in the most repressed environment ever.

The Chinese imperial nation is an invention by the Han creed, and their justification thereof is based on the grotesque fabrication of the ‘nation family of 56 ethnic groups'.
It is an attempt at masquerading their occupation, annexation and settlement of all these minorities' lands, from the Tibetans, Uighurs, Mongols to the Manchus etc.
Only the Han hold the power, and only the Han dictate what's allowed only the Han culture, language and values are tolerated, it is in fact a racist regime far worse than the old Apartheid regime ever was.

They only rose by, and hold onto power at the barrel of a gun, never having been elected, and rule with an iron fist as a racist dictatorship.

Remove the gun, and with it evaporates their Raison d'être, and ‘legitimacy’ arising from it.

The CCP has convinced itself that they are invincible, and that no one will ever dare to challenge them, or their self appointed rule over a “China” that is neither a willing, nor a cohesive nation.
In fact it is an anachronistic, imperial, racist, Han Chinese autocracy.

What would the outcry have been had the IOC awarded the Olympics to the old South Africa?
But then there wasn’t as much lucrative trade in the offing.
Posted by cardano, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:48:27 AM
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I applaud all efforts to end whatever abuse against any individual or group, so of course, also against any abuse the Tibetans might be suffering anywhere. But I would like to add that also the Dalai Lama is persecuting Tibetans. And this, anybody writing against China should at least look into this matter, and not glorify the Dalai Lama as the champion of Tibetans, because he is not.

The Dalai Lama’s worldwide success comes no doubt from his constant talk about compassion and religious tolerance. It’s quite a feat to sustain such success merely with words while simultaneously promoting for years a witch hunt in the Tibetan community against a group of religious practitioners venerating their lineage's Dharma Protector called Dorje Shugden.

This practitioners, contrary to what people under his influence and misinformed journalists are saying, do not constitute a cult or some kind of "small splinter sect". They were the most mainstream among the Tibetan Buddhists of the Gelug tradition –the one to which the Dalai Lama used to belong to– until he turned them into outcasts.
Posted by Friendoftruth, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 2:04:36 PM
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The SEVENTIES- The first moves against the practitioners of the Protector Deity Dorje Shugden had an internal political reason. These were the sixties and seventies. The Dalai Lama thought that he had to strengthten his authority over the Tibetan community to better face the world while in exile, and that a good way of doing this was to mix the beliefs and practices of the 4 schools of Tibetan Buddhism and create an only school with him at its head –a political move without religious basis, because while he was the political leader of Tibet, the Dalai Lama had never been its religious leader.

For the Gelugpa Lamas this destruction of religious diversity constituted a serious religious mistake, and they refused to comply. The Dalai Lama didn’t have any authority to impose this idea to them. In Mahayana Buddhism it is accepted that Lord Buddha taught many different Dharmas for many different levels of practitioners. So the notion of heresy does not exist, let alone the idea of persecuting other Buddhists. Probably due to his lack of doctrinary basis to impose his idea, the Dalai Lama decided to destroy the Protector of the Gelugpa lineage as a way to eliminate those Lamas who opposed him, his own teachers, the most influential among Tibetans. Remember this, because today the Dalai Lama wants the world to believe that the Dorje Shugden people are a kind of cult. This is untrue. They were the most mainstream of Tibetan Buddhism. And in those years, although the Dalai Lama tried as much as he could, he was not very successful in his domestic attempts to vilify the Protector of the Dharma called Dorje Shugden.
Posted by Friendoftruth, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 2:08:02 PM
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Hi Friendoftruth

Scholars worldwide agree that China's version of history in many areas defies credibility, none more so than in Tibet.

Far better to use your own research skills on diverse international reference bases to gain balance than blindly use what others foist on to you.

If I were you my friend, I would find another more appropriate blogger name.

Expat China Journo
July 29, 2008
Posted by expat China Journo, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 6:24:16 PM
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Its not just Tibet that China wants.
Some years back she built a road across the Himalayas to, one day, get her armies to the west.
Not long ago she built a railway into Tibet as part of getting her soldiers to the road to the west.
All China does is for planned military conquest of other nations.
If we read Revelation 9:16 and 16:12 we read about <the kings of the east> asian confederacy army.
200,000,000 soldiers moving out of the Far East and all the way across asia towards Armageddon...the final great battlefield north of Israel (Megiddo).
There are many revelations from The Lord about China.
One I have says she/and Russia have a plan to take on the USA and leave her at 3rd world levels...then begins the great outward march.

Western intelligence agencies would be wise never to take their eyes off her...or their eyes off the radar screens.

She wants Australia as NEW SOUTH CHINA or NEW CHINA.
Including I believe our women for her sons.
Her one child policy has left her with mostly boys... and no brides for those boys.
Posted by Gibo, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 7:18:29 PM
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What a heart-breaking article.
We already know it of course, but reading about it again re-opens a gaping wound.

Gibo, you contradict yourself: on the one hand you suggest that Western intelligence agencies should keep their eyes on China ; on the other hand, you claim that China's conquests are an inevitable prohpecy, all the way to Megiddo.

Can we do something about it?
Can we help a billion oppressed people?

Obviously boycotting the olympics is step #0, but still far from being effective.

Other than sobbing, It will be good to use this forum to gather ideas for action.

One idea that I favour, is to unite the world under the spiritual leadership of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, accepting his guidance and arbitration. As an ocean of compassion, no nation need to fear him and this can bring peace to other parts of the world. China will be facing a unified world that does not accept its oppressive practices.

Would that be enough? at least it will be a step in the right direction.

Tibet was not defeated, but rather transformed, from being a limited and inaccessible territory to become a global spiritual power. Let the whole world be Tibet, let the 15th Dalai Lama be born in Tibet, not the old Himalian area - the new Tibet.

(let me be clear: I am not suggesting to adopt the Tibetan culture and language - those vary from place to place, but the Tibetan spirit is universal)

Any other ideas?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 9:09:23 PM
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