Here's some simple maths about polygamy.

Pretty-much equal numbers of boys and girls are born.
But Polygamy allows one man to take responsibility for several wives and support several sets of children.

What happens to the other unmarried males?

In Middle-eastern countries, they are usually dead. The violence on the streets and the carnage of conscripted soldiers takes a horrific toll on men only. Women are protected.

Otherwise, the men that remain unmarried and childless are those too poor to attract and support a wife and children. Darwin's natural selection.

But virtually all women get marrried and watch their kids grow up. Good life for a Muslim woman - better than being killed or dying as a male virgin.

In Western cultures, there is a constant bleating about 'attractive, professional women being unable to find a man. "Commitment-phobia"! But what it really is is a result of "winner-takes-all" divorce-law and the strength of feminism... so that even married men are exploited by their dominant wives. Many single professional men are simply saying "no" to marriage and kids in the first place.

Google the "MARRIAGE STRIKE" and find out more.

Bronwyn
IVF is a form of polygamy, where 1 man has progeny spread amongst several women, although he may not be living with these women.

So why should a feminist not support polygamy if the man is living with the women, (and at least the children know who their father is) but support IVF when the man is not living with the women (and the children do not know who their father is).

Also why haven't you called C.J Morgan a misogynist, after saying several negative things about wives.

"You wont find committed Jesus' followers, despite their human weaknesses, slamming planes into buildings, storing up guns for an overthrow of a democarcy or abusing their women."

That logic only applies if you assume that those who do such things and claim to be committed Jesus' followers are not actually so. I'm not sure if anybody calling themselves a christain has yet slammed a plane into a building deliberately (but then only one group of people calling themselves muslim have done so, hardly a widespread practice).

Certainly there have been people calling themselves christain who have stored up guns in opposition to government and plenty who have abused women. Some have committed other acts of terrorism.

Their actions don't make all christains terrorists just as the actions of extremists don't make all muslims terrorists.

R0bert

HRS/Timkins: << Also why haven't you called C.J Morgan a misogynist, after saying several negative things about wives >>

Two reasons at least:

(i) Unlike some miserable souls, Bronwyn has a sense of humour

(ii) She knows I'm anything but a misogynist. Having an antipathy to an outmoded ritual like marriage is not the same as having one to women in general.

Keysar seems reasonably enlightened compared with some of his bearded brethren, but he fails to make a case for polygamy simply because of widespread "infidelity", and the challenges from the gay community to the very sensible concept of marriage as exclusively between one man and one woman.

However, I do have a couple of suggestions for Keysar.

1) Campaign actively to get gay marriage legally accepted in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia. After his successful campaign, he then can have a go at polygamy in Australia.

2) Otherwise, he should follow his own advice and "make sure that you do not offer a faith-based solution for a social problem". The other alternative, of course, is for him and others who want polygamy recognised, is simply to re-locate to a Muslim country.

Imagine having to endure multiple spouses. Oh, the horror.

Men not doing their fair share, dont communicate, need to be constantly nagged to take out the rubbish. Mental therapy and psycho-tropic drug use would explode. Having to fight those simple mere menz for the remote control when the games on... definately grounds for divorce. How many AVOs she gonna need. Cameras in all the rooms as children are likely to be sexually abused by a live-in male who isnt their father.

Imagine having a house full of wives getting on yer case and paying off all those credit cards. Plus, all that pointless talking and personal projection. Noise cancelling headphone sales would go thru the roof... of course being ignored would be domestic abuse and cause for an AVO.

Imagine the consequences in the event of divorce. Polyandrist divorcees getting alimony from multiple husbands and polygamous divorcees paying it to multiple wives. Maybe they would have to share it amongst themselves, which obviously wouldnt be enuff, obviously unacceptable to the fems.

Obviously so-called gender equality has descended into little more than a silly power-shifting battle of the sexes. A zero-sum game, clearly evidenced by the way folks post to these types of threads. Its all point scoring and molifying of insecure yet massive egoes, all around, and it all cancels itself out.

The sexes dont really seem to like each other that much, readily resorting to passive-aggressive, veiled and plausibly deniable insults, masqerading as reasonable dialogue. The so-called MRAs and Feminists are as bad as each other.

The sexes have learnt to expansively project their rhetoric of ressentment onto each other. Its all that lonliness, insecurity, unrequitted feelings and the me, me, me ego tripping control freaks that folks have become. Could be the result of the highly transient and shifting nature of society over the last few decades.