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The paradox of Muslim weakness : Comments

By Sadanand Dhume, published 6/6/2008

Islamists, even when not in power, wield fear and faith to pressure their societies in conservative directions.

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The Iraqis have a democracy -- a miracle on the order of flush toilets in that godforsaken region of the world. Despite its newness, Iraq's democracy appears to be no more dysfunctional than one that would condemn a man who has kept the nation safe for seven years while deifying a man who has accomplished absolutely nothing in his entire life except to give speeches about "change."

(Guess Bill Clinton's campaign theme in 1992? wrong if you guessed: "bringing dignity back to the White House." It was "change." In January 1992, Carville told Steve Daley of The Chicago Tribune that it had gotten to the point that the press was complaining about Clinton's "constant talk of change.")We begin to forget what it was like to turn on the TV, see a tornado, a car chase or another Pamela Anderson marriage and think: Good -- another day without a terrorist attack.

But liberals have only blind hatred for Bush -- and for those brute American interrogators who do not supply extra helpings of béarnaise sauce to the little darlings at Guantanamo with sufficient alacrity.
The sheer repetition of lies about Bush is wearing people down. There is not a liberal in this country worthy of kissing Bush's rear end, but the weakest members of the herd run from Bush. Compared to the lickspittles denying and attacking him, Bush is a moral giant -- if that's not damning with faint praise

Monthly casualties in Iraq now come in slightly lower than a weekend with Anna Nicole Smith. According to a CNN report last week, for the entire month of May, there were only 19 troop deaths in Iraq. (Last year, five people on average were shot every day in Chicago.) With Iraqi deaths at an all-time low, Iraq is safer than Detroit -- although the Middle Eastern food is still better in Detroit
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Saturday, 14 June 2008 3:59:56 PM
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No offence Cowboy Joe, but you're coming across a tad unbalanced there.

"Despite its newness, Iraq's democracy appears to be no more dysfunctional than one that would condemn a man who has kept the nation safe for seven years while deifying a man who has accomplished absolutely nothing in his entire life except to give speeches about "change."

Exaggerating much?

You simultaneously say that this democracy which has delivered George Bush, who "Compared to the lickspittles denying and attacking him, Bush is a moral giant" and yet, this country apparently has a democracy less worthy than Iraqs.

Uh huh. I suspect your rhetoric here is getting a little hysterical. Let's take a further look shall we?

"and for those brute American interrogators who do not supply extra helpings of béarnaise sauce to the little darlings at Guantanamo with sufficient alacrity."

Ah yes, that's what they're fussed about. Not waterboarding, or torture tactics that are banned by the Geneva convention.

I'm willing to accept there's been some improvement in Iraq, though I still don't believe the venture was a good idea when much more focus could have been invested in say, stabilising Afghanistan and addressing the drug trade, and perhaps placing more of an emphasis on halting Saudi funds to extreme Wahabbist Madrassas.

But then again, I suppose because I disagree with Bush's policies, I'm merely some 'lickspittle.'

I'll not resort to your sledging tactics by pointing out what you sound like.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 15 June 2008 2:03:31 PM
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I posted a copied article on Saturday, with the words "sourced article".

Here's the last which I also did not write.

The writer enjoys revving up leftists. If we had balanced news reporting the general population might have a more balanced view point. Controversial news in Australia means publicising the view of an extreme leftist.

Al-Qaida is virtually destroyed, surprising even the CIA. weeks ago, The Washington Post reported: "Less than a year after his agency warned of new threats from a resurgent al-Qaida, CIA Director Hayden now portrays the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border."

this week, The New York Times reported that al-Qaida and other terrorist groups in Southeast Asia have all but disappeared, starved of money and support. The U.S. and Australia have been working closely with the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia, sending them counterterrorism equipment and personnel.

no one notices when 9/11 doesn't happen. , if we had somehow stopped the 9/11 attack, we'd all be watching Mohammed Atta interviewed on MSNBC, explaining his lawsuit against the Bush administration. Maureen Dowd would be writing columns describing Sheik Mohammed as a "wannabe" terrorist being treated like Genghis Khan by an excitable Bush administration.

We forget what it was like to turn on the TV, see a tornado, a car chase or another Pamela Anderson marriage and think: Good another day without a terrorist attack.

liberals have only blind hatred for Bush and for those brute American interrogators who do not supply extra helpings of béarnaise sauce to the little darlings at Guantanamo with sufficient alacrity.

The sheer repetition of lies about Bush is wearing. not a liberal in this country worthy of kissing Bush's rear end, but the weakest members of the herd run from Bush. Compared to the lickspittles denying and attacking him, Bush is a moral giant if that's not damning with faint praise. McCain should be so lucky as to be running for Bush's third term.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:34:27 PM
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Cowboy Joe: << liberals have only blind hatred for Bush and for those brute American interrogators who do not supply extra helpings of béarnaise sauce to the little darlings at Guantanamo with sufficient alacrity.

The sheer repetition of lies about Bush is wearing. not a liberal in this country worthy of kissing Bush's rear end, but the weakest members of the herd run from Bush. Compared to the lickspittles denying and attacking him, Bush is a moral giant if that's not damning with faint praise. McCain should be so lucky as to be running for Bush's third term. >>

So if Cowboy Joe isn't the author of this tripe, perhaps he'd be good enough to provide a reference for its provenance?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 16 June 2008 9:04:28 AM
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Dhume isn't the smartest cookie on the planet. He also lives ind enial about the extent of Hindu extremism in his own country, India. Muslim extremism is on the run in most Muslim countries. But Hindu extremists are forming governments in India. A neo-Fascist like Narendra Modi continues to be re-elected in Gujarat, despite his role in the massacre in 2002 of over 3,000 innocent civilians. Don't expect Dhume to talk about that in a hurry.

The real paradox is that, in the world's largest democracy, religious extremists can still threaten the existence of religious minorities with impunity. But I doubt self-styles Australian Christians like Boaz_David would care about non-white Catholics in India.
Posted by BOZO_DAGWOOD, Monday, 16 June 2008 1:23:28 PM
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The female, attorney and author you inquired about:

Ann Hart Coulter was born to John Vincent Coulter, an Attorney for Phelps Dodge (Albany, New York, May 5, 1926 - New Canaan, Connecticut, January 4, 2008) and wife (married at Stuyvesant, New York, September 30, 1953) Nell Husbands Martin (Paducah, Kentucky, February 23, 1928 -).[2] After her birth in New York City, New York, the family moved to New Canaan, Connecticut, where Coulter and her two older brothers, James and John, were raised.[3] She has described her family as "upper middle class" and has termed her attorney father a "union buster".[4][5][6] He was a nine-year FBI agent who worked on the William Remington espionage case and, later as a labor lawyer was involved in defeating a 1983-1985 strike by the United Steelworkers against the Phelps Dodge copper company that ended with 30 locals being decertified.[7][8]

As an undergraduate at Cornell University, Coulter helped found The Cornell Review,[9] and was a member of the Delta Gamma national women's fraternity.[10] She graduated cum laude from Cornell in 1984, and received her law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, where she achieved membership in the Order of the Coif and was an editor of the Michigan Law Review.[11] At Michigan, Coulter founded a local chapter of the Federalist Society and was trained at the National Journalism Center.[12]

After law school, Coulter served as a law clerk, in Kansas City, for Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.[13] After a short time working in New York City in private practice, where she specialized in corporate law, Coulter left to work for the United States Senate Judiciary Committee after the Republican Party took control of Congress in 1994. She handled crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan, and helped craft legislation designed to expedite the deportation of aliens convicted of felonies.[14] She later became a litigator with the Center for Individual Rights.[15]

It can't all be tripe; that is if her accusers even the slightest remnant of objectivity left.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 1:17:18 PM
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