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Master of Islamist doublespeak : Comments

By Melanie Phillips, published 7/3/2008

Tariq Ramadan's reputation as a Muslim reformer owes everything to the wishful thinking of those who want to believe in him.

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Yeah, I'm such a hypocritical lowlife that I'd even defend the right of Islamophobic idiots like gz, dickie et al to have their say. That doesn't mean I'm required to play their silly games though - that only encourages them.

I daresay we'll encounter each other again soon enough in this forum - but please try and stay on topic next time.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 14 March 2008 8:57:28 AM
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CJ Morgan,

You are completely deluded -- No one here ever needed your help to defend his/her right.
Not if you cannot even defend freedom where and when it matters.

Just in case you have not noticed, actually our discussions are mostly on topic, because YOU are in fact a "Master of Islamist doublespeak" yourself.
Posted by gz, Friday, 14 March 2008 9:15:15 AM
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"The following article again reminds me of the need for vigilance in Australia, despite those who prefer to wear their rose tinted glasses and who will of course, hasten to accuse me of being an Islamophobe."

I refuse to label you an Islamaphobe. In fact, you're a complete moron. Do you know that Tariq Ramadan said in his Brisbane talk that he was against Muslims sending their kids of such schools?

He may be right or wrong on that score. But this case in Perth is just one school. Why don't you talk about the Exclusive Brethren schools that stop kids from learning computers? Or what about all the Catholic priests who touched little boys in Catholic schools? I guess you regard pedophilia as a healthy Christian practice.
Posted by BOZO_DAGWOOD, Friday, 14 March 2008 6:23:40 PM
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"A "cursory sniff" reveals that Ramadan is an "Arab Muslim" who is lately a well known Islamist darling of Left wing (pseudo)academe. That's the same crowd who, in previous generations, swooned over Stalin."

Ramadan's grandfather was the founder of the Moslem Brotherhood, an anti-Leftist political movement that opposed Leftist Egyptian strongman Gamal Abdel Nasser. The MB were supported and funded by the US and its allies (e.g. Saudi Arabia).

A branch of MB in the occupied territories, known as HAMAS, was supported by Israel during the 1970's and early 1980's. It created a parallel welfare network that rivalled the secular and leftist PLO.

Far-Right d#ckheads like StevenMeyer will always blame the monolithic left. But the Right have had just as much (if not greater) role in creating this Islamist bogeyman.
Posted by BOZO_DAGWOOD, Friday, 14 March 2008 6:31:54 PM
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Gotta say it!

You're my kind of BOZO!!
Posted by Ginx, Friday, 14 March 2008 7:36:39 PM
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"I guess you regard pedophilia as a healthy Christian practice."

Hey DOZO DAGWOOD

Are you off the whacky weed yet?

What a drongo!

When you've emerged from La La Land, please note the following:

1. This thread is about Islamist Doublespeak.

2. It is not about the Exclusive Brethren or the Catholic Church

3. I am an atheist therefore I do not favour any religion, nor do I normally engage in religious debate

4. What relevance is there between Ramadan's Brisbane lecture and a Muslim college which was shut down in December due to allegations of fraud?

5. Should the allegations be proved correct, then there's been a double dose of Islamist Doublespeak occurring at that college and all in the name of Allah (peace be upon him.)

6. Seemingly you approve of the $350 thousand of taxpayers money allegedly secreted to Pakistan. I don't!

7. The arrest of that pillar of European Islam, Tariq Ramadan, in Paris's Roissy Airport on March 12, 2007, for "offensive misconduct" --including some insulting epithets hurled forcefully by Ramadan, saw the Western media close ranks by failing to report on the incident of Ramadan breaching security and calling staff members a "bitch" and "arseholes," which resulted in an overnight stay in the lock-up.

However, media reports constantly alert the public to improper practices in other religions and so they should.

Therefore, why are the sycophants objecting to the reporting of misdemeanors, fraud, torture and documented murder within the Australian Islamic community? If moderates, also the majority in other religions, have to wear the flack, why so touchy about Islam?

On second thoughts, don't answer that Dozo.......you're such a dropkick!
Posted by dickie, Friday, 14 March 2008 9:20:37 PM
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