Don't be unkind CJ; Melanie needs to write something occasionally so that she and her racist attack dogs can get yet another chance to vent their racist spleens.

Ginx
Racist? What are you talking about?
This is about religion, politics and culture.
Criticism of Islamism has absolutely nothing to do with race at all.
This is a typical reaction from the appeasers and facilitators of Islamism.
Whining about race is not appropriate in these circumstances.
What about THEIR racism towards Jews and the people they disparagingly call "Kuffirs"?
Are they not racist? The only racists I see are the Islamists, they are past masters at it, with a long history of 1400 years to prove it..

"and one that seems particularly characteristic of the various extremists who peddle hatred in this forum."

Ah there you go again CJ Morgan. So you've found another to victimise by your innuendo that it is now I, who in your expert opinion, is an "extremist(s) who peddles hatred in this forum."

"I don't suppose you'd like to provide just one example of where I have defended "violent cults such as radical Islam"? CJ Morgan

You just did CJ!

Your attacks on those who criticise Islam is evident right throughout your posts which are peppered with the following insults:

"Australian cult xenophobia," "blind bigotry," "typically xenophobic rant," "whining racists," "racist trolls" "whack a mozzie," "hate tinted glasses," etc etc.

And of course, in your "humble" opinion, Australia is riddled with Australians who hate their own indigenous people .

You are of course well aware that your victims are not criticising moderate Muslims but the fanatical religion to which Muslims adhere. But you're good at manipulating the facts CJ!

"Whacking Aussies," appears to be your favourite past-time. Perhaps we should all tip in and buy you a prayer mat?

I-don't-care-whether-RACISM-is-directed-AT-Jews-BY-Jews-AT-Islamists-BY-Islamists-AT-Worshipers-BY-Worshipers-AT-Buddhists-BY-Buddhists-AT-The Evangelistic Knitters Club-BY-The Evangelistic Knitters Club..........

Bankers!!

How you people love playing "Melanie Says"!!

CJ.. that was a most educational little blurb.

<<At least if they are allowed to give voice to their loathsome sentiments, the rest of us have some idea of what we're dealing with. >>

This, after describing others as:

1/ RAMADAN= 'is' “duplicitous Islamist toad,” (funny.. we agree, so why do we say the same thing and fight all the time ?)

2/ PHILLIPS= 'is' a “demonstrated Islamophobic hack.” (err..no, she is saying what YOU say-methinks you judged yourself there)

COMMENT I find it ..hmmm (trying to find words) 'difficult' to reconcile that you hold the same views as Phillips(though yours are more colorfully expressed than hers) , yet you then condemn her? * scratches head *

3/ David Irving 'is' a “loathsome holocaust denier”

4/ Howard 'is' a “pathetically poor loser.”

5/ Stevenlmeyer 'is' a supposedly secular “Islamophobe”, while

6/ Boazy 'is' an “extremist Christian Islamophobe.”

Yet, in all this, I find the strongest language against Ramadan being expressed by no less than CJ himself. “Duplicitious Islamist Toad” :)

Now..I, in my “Christian extremism” have avoided condemning the 'man'... and focus on the ideas which drive him. Why? Because he may come and go, but the ideas will remain, to animate some other 'toad'.

You say 'The REST of us'.... hmm :) sounds a bit like 'holier_than_thou' to me..but I could be wrong there 0_^

FROGGIE.. your powers of observation are good. No..I surely do NOT have a “purely religious agenda”
Often stated, seldom realized. I speak on 2 levels.

a) Citizen of Australia
b) Christian evangelist.

Sometimes I mix the two in a given post. The 2 are not incompatible. (at this point)

I find no reason not to speak out against ideas which I perceive as a threat to freedom, 'as' a citizen who happens to engage also in proclaiming the Gospel of Christ.

SUMMARY. It should be quite possible for a CJ Morgan, Arjay,Leigh, a Pericles, a Froggie, a Dickie and a BD etc to stand together against the ideas driving Ramadan and others, purely based on those ideas, and irrespective of 'other' interests in life.

Er, no Boazy. I didn't agree with Phillips - she is arguing against Ramadan being allowed to present his views publicly in Australia and Britain, while I'm arguing that he should be allowed to, so that we can judge for ourselves whether he's a duplicitous Islamist toad disguised as a moderate.

It's called freedom of speech, which is why I acknowledged the right of other people who hold odious views to express them. This by no means implies that I agree with those ideas.

Which is why dickie's little attack is so strange. She wrote that I "continually defend violent cults such as radical Islam", then subsequently points to my most recent post as evidence of this. How anybody can construe my arguments against those who peddle hatred in this forum as being any kind of defence of radical Islam, is beyond me.

As eleoquently expressed by someone else in another thread: "Dickheadophobia is not the same as Islamophilia". I confess to experiencing the former condition on occasions, but I'm on record here as stating that I find Islam an even more ridiculous and anachronistic variant of the God delusion than Christianity.

If that's a defence of radical Islam, then you can call me BOAZ_David!

Lastly, it's also a dishonest debating tactic to string a bunch of alleged "quotes" together out of context. Some of the "quotes" that dickie provides are from discussions about Aboriginal people rather than Muslims, others I don't recall writing at all, and none of them defend radical Islam.

And what does the fact that a significant proportion of Australians remain racist towards Aborigines have to do with a discussion about radical Islam anyway?